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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« on: January 06, 2007, 04:53:54 AM »
Again with the dead horses...

Look, to everyone screaming about OS4 on X86 hardware... WE ALREADY HAVE IT!!!!!! It's called AROS. Look into it.

AmigaOS 4 and higher will, and should, remain on PPC processors untill the EOL of the architecture. Period.

What I don't understand is why it seems to be so hard to get OS4 running. Hardware for it has existed for YEARS. There are numerous manufacturers of PPC motherboards out there. Pick one. Pick several. In fact, pick them all! Forget this product licensing BS. We don't need dongles or any other anti-piracy crap. Anyone who would even consider buying a PPC board for the purpose of running OS4 would buy it legitimately. But if that's a major concern, force registration. That'll solve most of it. Anyone else who wants to run it bad enough WILL circumvent ANY form of anti-piracy scheme. There is nothing that cannot be cracked.

The long and short of it is, OS4 is not meant for joe user. It's meant for US, the Amiga community. It should be opened up to what WE want to run it on... Like the cheap and sexy Efika.
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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 06:39:34 AM »
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koaftder:  Different processors, different operating systems, different libs, etc and the processor is of little concern to me. So, as a developer, if the processor means almost nothing to me, why the hell should an end user care?

Because assembly is, like, all of solid awesome and stuff!  Everyone wants to write PPC assembler!


BINGO! That's my goal anyway. x86 has far too many instructions IMHO. Way too much overhead, way too many wasted transistors.

OOP lanugages have gotten SOOOOO out of control, and are the primary cause of OS/Application bloat (seconded only by pure programming laziness).

On a side note, I also think it's inherently wrong to have any OS written in a high level language. Maybe the GUI, but certainly not the core functions or drivers... The parts that speak to the hardware should be written in assembler.
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Mac Mini 1.5GHz, that might run MorphOS someday, when the fools who own it come to the realization that 30 minutes just isn\'t enough time to play with it enough to decide whether or not you like it enough to cough up $200.

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Re: What Amiga Inc. and Hyperion NEED TO DO (IMHO)
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2007, 04:49:51 AM »
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Contrasting the instruction sets between PPC and Intel Architecture is essentially worthless these days as modern chips no longer have a 1-1 coorespondence between their instruction sets and whats actually going on in the die, unlike older microprocessors.


Actually, that's precisely what I'm talking about. The x86 instruction set is microcode emulated on RISC processors now. In effect, RISC86. I'd much rather see the microcode disappear, and the transistors on the die along with it. Things would all be SOOOO much faster.
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A4000D, A3640 OC-36.3MHz, custom tower, Mediator A4000D. Diamond Banshee 16M, Indivision AGA 4000, GVP HC+8.

Mac Mini 1.5GHz, that might run MorphOS someday, when the fools who own it come to the realization that 30 minutes just isn\'t enough time to play with it enough to decide whether or not you like it enough to cough up $200.

 - Someone please design SOME kind of DIY accelerator for the A4000. :D -