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Offline Dr_Righteous

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I just wish people could stop trying to compare Amigas to PCs or other platforms. There's no comparison because their intended functions are completely different.

The "IBM PC Compatable" computers have always been designed for general business use. Walk into a cube farm today, or in 1994, you'll see a PC. A Mac perhaps if you go into the publishing department.

Where do you find the Amiga? TV stations (many still use them today for titling). Graphics studios (Took SGI workstations to pry Amigas out of the hands of the folks at Foundation Imaging, and most of them took their Amigas home). And of course, the home gamers, who loved the superior graphics capabilities and ease of use.

Amigas are graphics workstations. Always have been. Specialized machines designed for a specific task. Great games came as a result of the graphics cababilities. Trying to turn Amiga into a general business machine is rediculous at best, and doomed to failure.

If someone were actually serious about bringing the Amiga back from the shadows, they'd be sitting down with AMD and nVidia and designing a new kick-ass graphics workstation... Not x86 based, but the best RISC CPU AMD can dream up... Combined with the best chipset and GPU nVidia can crank out. Keep the simplicity of the OS, designed specifically for the architectural design. As it was before.

In other words, don't compete with Microsoft and Apple... Compete with SGI and SUN. Wow Animators and movie studios. The games will take care of themselves. Applications will of course follow suit as they always do.

Haynie is getting his wish already... AROS. It's success will be in combining the simplicity of AmigaOS with the cheapness of x86 hardware.

Perhaps this is blasphemy, but I believe the PPC is dying. Apple's announcement has essentially signed its death warrant. It's doomed to the same fate as the DEC Aplha Generation processors. Cost is determined by production, which is determined by demand. PPC costs will soar to unreasonable heights, making it useless for anything other than embeded systems... Which is not what Amiga is about (that's what BeOS and QNX are for).

Haynie is almost right... Amiga's future lies in the past. Follow the original model that succeded, and you will find success once again. But x86 is not the way (tho with enough support, AROS can beat Linux here).
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 05:30:26 AM »
Ahem what? Linux is being used to aid in development. So what? I still say done right, and with enough community support, AROS has a chance to unseat Linux as the number 2 x86 OS.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2006, 06:38:09 AM »
...and in 10 years Linux is still unusable by anyone but patient geeks and network admins.

Kernels alone don't make an operating system. BIOS and GUI/CLI are just as vital. AROS is concentrating on the interface first... Top-down design at its finest.

x86 has been obsolete for a long long time... It's been emulated by RISC processors since the late 90's. Even that hasn't managed to kill the instruction set... Expanding it to 64 bits won't kill it either. I suppose I should have said RISC86 instead.

If that's not what you meant, I'd like to know what you think will replace RISC86/x86.

"Support AROS will never have?" We'll see... I meerly suggest it is possible.
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Mac Mini 1.5GHz, that might run MorphOS someday, when the fools who own it come to the realization that 30 minutes just isn\'t enough time to play with it enough to decide whether or not you like it enough to cough up $200.

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