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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: HD Installation Problems
« on: December 24, 2016, 02:04:32 AM »
Quote from: Python15;818142
OK now, a few questions. I've had the hard drive  in the Amiga and everything was going swimmingly. Then the machine had  one of those software errors during a transfer of data and rebooted.  When it came back on line all the partitions were NDOS. I must add that  the drive was partitioned as HD0 @ 400Mb, HD1 @ 1Gb and the rest of the  drive partitioned in just under 4Gb lots (18 Gb drive). Is this not  acceptable? Should it be just the two partitions not greater than 4Gb? I  also tried slaveing in a DVD/CD ROM drive but didn't really know what I  was doing with AmiCDROM 1.5, just too many variables I couldn't answer  so was just guessing. I also saw a sweet mod with what looked like a  laptop DVD drive which ejected out the back of the machine. Looked real  neat! Any advice very welcome!

From what I remember of a "true" Amiga partition, you are best off just  sticking with 1 max 4gb partition. A little less does no real harm.

The reason is for the legacy hardware, scsi.device eats RAM up with  directory entries, amongst others. One of the options is directory  caching on file systems, introduced in WB 3 if I remember correctly. If  you have a very large partition with billions of little files on it, the  Amiga grinds to a halt trying to cache it all.

AmigaDOS was designed and evolved as a 32 bit max operating system, and  while various hacks and mods do let you use big drives and partitions,  they all eat resources, which are sometimes scarce in emulators and  always in legacy hardware.

IIRC, there were also a couple useful  hacks from the period, which did things like write files to a dummy  name, then alter the original to a backup, then alter the dummy to the  original. That way, a software failure during a write does not trash  your whole hard drive partition. I've no idea if these are still  widespread or in use on the Amiga, or were perhaps included on later  versions than 3.1 of AmigaDOS, but you do get similar "bulletproof"  characteristics from current Linux based operating systems. Turn them  off during a write operation, they don't care, and startup as normal  when power is back on.
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Offline Pat the Cat

Re: HD Installation Problems
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 03:27:34 AM »
Quote from: rvo_nl;818152
Without a hack for both the filesystem (FFS) and the device driver (scsi.device) you will run into trouble copying anything beyond the first 4gb of your drive. Hardware devices like the Idefix patch the device driver on the fly, software solutions will perform an extra reboot when starting your Amiga from cold. As for the filesystem, most popular would be to use SFS, though some will recommend PFS3 (which, by exception, does not need an updated scsi.device).

The best option IMO would be to install OS3.9 since ...

Yes, I would be one of those people who recommend PSF3 if you are sticking to 3.1 of AmigaDOS. Which is OK for most A1200s out there.

I can see why you recommend the upgrade to 3.9, as you have gone the Blizzard PPC and Cybervision route. Very nice machines, but perhaps not necessary in this case.
"To recurse is human. To iterate, divine."

A1200, Vanilla, Surf Squirrel, SD Card, KS 3.0/3.z, PCMCIA dev
A500, Vanilla, A570, Rev 5, KS 1.2/1.3 Testbench system
Rasp Pi, UAE4ARM, 3D laser scanner, experimental, hoping for AmigaOS4Arm, based on Watterott Fabscan Pi