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Offline DrBombcrater

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Re: Best Amiga Today???
« on: February 04, 2005, 06:21:34 PM »
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Tss, Pegasos II G4 get smarter CPU (MPC7447 running at 1Ghz), DDR -> faster

The 800MHz 750GX that's used on the uA1 is a bit of a beast. There's not much in the way of hard figures yet (mostly Quake frame rates) but it seems to be easily quicker than a 1GHz G4.
 

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Re: Best Amiga Today???
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 07:46:50 PM »
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In th end, I think G4 is faster than G3 at same frequency. It would be nice to make some benchmark between these two.

There were Quake scores posted in a thread on AW. I can't reference the exact numbers because AW is down right now, but the uA1's 750GX/800 returned a better score than an XE with a 1.1GHz G4 (I think it was a 7447, but not sure).
 

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Re: Best Amiga Today???
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 10:35:55 PM »
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the GX (Gekko) has added SIMD instructions (also found in the Nintendo Gamecube). So the G4's vector processing advantage is lessened, the GX is also a newer design so it's internally more efficient than the G4 for most things.

The 750GX has almost nothing in common with the Gamecube's Gecko, which seems to be just a simplified 750CXe with a basic SIMD unit smashed on. The 750GX, like all the current 750 series, has no SIMD capability at all.

My pet theory is the the GX's large L2, coupled with improvements in the way the cache is managed and interfaced to the core, has reduced the number of times the pipeline is stalled by main memory hits to some critical point where the core can get much closer to its theoretical maximum throughput that earlier 750 designs can.

And that theoretical maximum is significantly higher for the 750's 4-stage core, at least on integer code, than for the G4's 7-stage core. The G4 is supposed to counter that by scaling to higher clocks than the 750 (which it does, of course, 1.6GHz against 1.0GHz currently) but the G4s on the A1 and Peg2 are simply not clocked high enough to overcome the 750GX's advantages.

If IBM can ever cure the Condition Register bug and actually get the 750GX working reliably above 1GHz then even the latest 1.6GHz G4 will have trouble staying ahead of it.