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Re: Positive message!
« on: October 25, 2010, 01:49:48 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;586925
MinWin


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Not sure what the Linux/BSD crews are up to, but the fact that they are still here and major hardware vendors are activly supporting them, this has to be good news!


They have OSS ATI drivers that are finally worth a damn :D

No more messing with binary blobs that only worked with very specific configs :)
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 03:18:33 PM »
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I think you mean AMD, ATI as a brand has been dead for quite a while now :)


Still says ATI on this here 200M ;)

mototrucker, everything works on the driver now - so full hardware 2d and overlay and 3d support. It should be noted however that the 3d support for this particular chip (and I would imagine others as well) does need to be optimised somewhat.

But it does work quite nicely for all that :)
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 04:50:46 PM »
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Optimized? Hey its jusy amazing that enough information has reached open developers to do this at all.


Yes, optimised, as it stands the 3d portion is a little on the slow side.

As for amazing? A year ago the OSS driver was little more than a Vesa frame buffer with those words crossed out and replaced with "ATI display driver" put in in crayon. Since then, the full gamete of 2d capabilities has been added and yes whilst slow, usable 3d (more than fast enough to run compiz type effects, or basic games for instance) has come into being. It is a testament to their dedication that they've come this far, this fast.

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For some reason ATI has always wanted to keep the exact way their products operate a deep dark secret (and Nvidai hasn't been much better). Then they've tried to force us into lame proprietary drivers.


In of itself I have no truck with this, as nVidia shows, it can be done well. However the proprietary drivers for ATI/AMD graphics products has always been a hateful, spiteful experience. One which, if you're exceedingly lucky, you might get working, but more often than not will leave you frustrated and cursing the Canuks who created them.

To have something that works out of the box, won't break every time you update the kernel is a wonderful thing :)

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It would be nice to have a competitive third company in the market that was serious about open drivers.


Intel for starters, I believe that VIA's graphics drivers are with a few exceptions quite open too.
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 05:52:56 PM »
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Ive generally stuck it with Nvidia and had no problems at all in recent years. Everything works great :)


Yup. Unfortunately I didn't have much say in the matter of my laptop (it was a trade). So to go from really nasty to downright usable is great.

I did like Nvidia though when I had a desktop system.
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 12:01:12 AM »
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There is no IPv6 support in amiga land what-so-ever, the writings on the wall have been ignored for 10+ years - soon enough people will have other worries than just their browser not being up-to-date. The only developer who ever spoke of doing IPv6 stack for Amiga was Holder Kruse, but that ofcourse never materialized.






And this is positive... how, exactly?
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2010, 12:10:34 AM »
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Could've been worse, from kolla!  That's gotta count for something.


Trufax :D

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Because I'm sure he was just about to follow it up with a note on some kual new home router that will allow you to use IPv4 internally and proxy/NAT it out via IPv6 so you won't have to worry.

I'm sure that's where he was going...
:)


:roflmao:

Aaaaaaand we're back :D
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 12:25:22 AM »
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what is it when l click on in windows 7 network propertys l seen l just configure
the version 4 protocol what is the difrence seems same settings .


As far as Windows goes, don't worry about it. When the switch comes, you probably wont notice much of a difference :)

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do you mean there ruuning out possible web address


No, an ip address is different to a web address

Google.com's current IP address is 216.239.51.99

Now its that sets of numbers that we're running out of.

This might help explain it a bit more.
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 12:38:11 AM »
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Pirate IPv4 networks popping up around the internet!  Kind of reminds me of HECnet.


Showing your age a bit there ;)
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 12:41:35 AM »
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Not quite old enough to have used DEC machines professionally (at least not in their heyday,) I just managed to grab a couple of machines for free recently.


Fair play :)
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2010, 12:17:34 PM »
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Well, it is positive that this cannot be ignored for much longer :)


Oooooooh, nice save there sir! :D

I think this might also do for BeOS and Zeta, Haiku afaik uses a modified BSD stack.
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Re: Positive message!
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2010, 10:22:18 PM »
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I don't like the Windows 7 taskbar at all.  It makes no distinction between currently running programs and quicklaunch icons.  Not having text descriptions of programs is a step backwards too.  I'm used to the classic interface and know my way around it, so not having it as an option is a big problem for me.  Performance-wise it's pretty great though.


Are there no alternate skins available for 7?
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