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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 13, 2010, 06:57:09 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification. I figured by late 90's the PC market had switched to pentiums more or less completely, so I don't think I've ever seen IE or Netscape on a 486 in person.


No worries!

Lets put it this way, Microsoft didn't exactly advertise the 3.x version of IE5. It took me about a month of digging to find a link to it on their site that worked :lol:

And yeah, you're right - the vast majority of people had moved onto much bigger and better things than the humble 486 by the time of IE4's release, much less IE5 :D

But it was a freebie, which like the Amiga, I couldn't resist putting it through it's paces to see just what it was capable of. It was an interesting experiment for sure. Certainly as far as browsing went, the PC, even of the vintage I trialled was a much more capable system. Though on the usability front it simply couldn't hold a candle to the Amiga.

Ended up giving the system away iirc. Or at least what remained of it.

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and hey, hooray for shapeshifter :) Knew a guy who used that quite a lot to use app's and even some games that weren't coming out for the amiga once commodore tanked, and it always looked impressive. Heck, sometimes it even looked faster than comparable mac's I dealt with at work, but Im not sure if thats true or not.


Well I read the same quotes - that an 040 equipped Amiga could outpace a like for like equipped Quadra. Though if I'm honest I never saw benchmarks backing it up. It's cited on wikipedia too, though I've not really bothered to look into it.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 07:04:22 PM »
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Is there an amiga version of Lynx ?


Oh yes!
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 07:07:57 PM »
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peecee


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peecee's


So mature!


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and stop comparing a machine which wasn't developed to it's fullest (AGA anyone?), to a machine


We weren't.

But... You'd actually have to bother to read what was being discussed to understand that rather than skim though like you just did.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2010, 07:12:30 PM »
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I've been meaning to get a wireless PCMCIA card for my 1200, and I figured Lynx would be the best way to go :)


I think at one point there was supposed to be a version of Elinks floating around out there that had been compiled for the Amiga... Gods only know where it resides if its not on Aminet however.

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Still a bit daunted at the task of setting up TCP/IP and all that


MiamiDX, accept no substitute. Makes light work of networking. I found the Cappa version on Aminet to be the most stable for me, though your mileage may vary :)
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2010, 07:21:06 PM »
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I'll look into it.


On a totally unrelated note but somewhat tangential to this thread... can you bring any of the atari machines online ? Howd they fare ?


Here might be the best place to ask.

I have almost no knowledge of the Atari
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2010, 07:34:16 PM »
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the_leander... FOR GAWDS SAKE, please stop quoting quote upon quote and then only answering with one or two word reply's... :)


No.

Breaking up a post is realistically the only way to clarify what specifically you're replying to whilst trimming out the bits you're not responding to is best practice. The other alternative is to manually paste in bits with quotation marks, which whilst would probably suffice, isn't as clear as the system offered by this forum or top posting.

If you don't like this style of posting, I suggest you take it up on Usenet, where you are sure to find a warm reception to the idea of top posting especially :p

Very warm, in fact...
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2010, 07:48:47 PM »
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I always write peecee on Amiga fora, what's the big deal?


It's not a big deal (to me), it just lessens the strength of any following argument.

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discussions such as this aren't very useful


On the whole I would agree. However, a little nostalgia trip, comparing the relative strengths and weaknesses between various systems of a given era on what is essentially a hobbyist board can be interesting, so long as it doesn't devolve into flames.

Which with the exception of a couple in this thread, it hasn't.

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How mature is that?


All depends on how you handle it.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2010, 07:55:51 PM »
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Is it


Yes.

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I don't


Suck it up.

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wrong suggestion


Followed up with...

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What's 'top posting' !!! :D


Now see,  if you'd followed my suggestion, you'd have your answer. Failing that JFGI.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2010, 09:09:24 AM »
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Think about it: the PC is not a relic, but it is still designed upon a relic standard.  Take a brand new workstation that has a floppy disk drive in it (as many servers do) and try accessing the drive when the drive is empty.

The PC will give it's entire life to try and read a nonexistent floppy.

I would say the PC is overdue for a redesign: when Google comes out with its seconds boot will be the beginning of a whole new PC era... so, relic or no, the PC is still using the same design architecture as the 286.

The Amiga approach was stellar and very powerful in its day and age and today's equivalent would be a Sony Playstation or X-Box... leaving the PC in the dust when it comes to moving data to and from the bus.




There are no words for this level of stupid.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2010, 06:53:41 AM »
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Looks like Pixar and ILM use linux, and were swapping from unix.


No doubt, not only is the software then free of gargantuan licence fees, but you can install it and tweek it on whatever this months top of the line CPU/GPU combo is the fastest/cheapest/most readily available.

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If windows is so great, why don't million and billion dollar corporations like ILM, Pixar and Google use it ?


They probably do in the office. But server side? Linux is pretty much the dominant force these days.

Want a basic webserver running off of a recycled dell desktop? Linux will more than likely run on it...
Want a mainframe with 24 cores?  Yeah linux will run on that...
Want a beowolf cluster with 1000+ nodes, linux'll do that too....

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Why does virtually no US Government website run on windows ?


Because Windows makes for a piss poor web facing server.

But as a desktop OS, especially in business, it rules supreme.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2010, 07:52:31 AM »
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Linux is probably the least prominent of the OSes they use if thier website is any indication.


Least prominent maybe, but probably the most numerous in terms of the number of units running it in their render farms.

All of the software they use that does the donkey work seems to support Linux, with the media creation stuff being left to Mac and Windows, which really isn't all that surprising.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2010, 07:09:23 PM »
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 Windows 98SE was the LAST good OS by Microsoft.  



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 Windows 98SE was the LAST good OS by Microsoft.  



Quote from: amigaksi;577106
 Windows 98SE was the LAST good OS by Microsoft.  



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 Windows 98SE was the LAST good OS by Microsoft.  



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 Windows 98SE was the LAST good OS by Microsoft.  



Here we see Amigaski out-do his previous record for burning stupid.

Now tell us again about the Amiga's joystick port. We could do with a good laugh.
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