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high power dual-processor CPU


That's great and all, but since when does AOS, in any form support multiple CPUs? Last I checked to do so would break a great many things.
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 04:30:10 PM »
:lol: @ the doomy reference.

How would the PA6T compare against the end of the line "G4" as found in Quicksilver Macs and the final Powerbooks?
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 04:36:14 PM »
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There's two ways of looking at this. One the one hand, you've got a non SMT based OS and a dual core CPU. Not an effective combination. However, just one of the cores in a 2GHz class PA Semi is already significantly faster than any existing G4 box upon which OS4 runs and still included niceties like Altivec. Overall, then, you are still getting a faster system, just not one you are making full use of.


Are there any comparisons between the various PPCs? I'd be curious to see how the PA6t, G4 and Titan cpus stood.

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Now, as for SMT, in it's purest form with total backwards compatibility with 3.x, I don't imagine it happening. If no better solution is possible, it may be that a "hybrid" form, where threads created by legacy applications are confined to one core, but those of well-behaved "native" applications are not, is doable.


Sounds almost like running a VM.
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 04:39:07 PM »
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Pretty well, I would imagine. The PA6T is supposed to be more like the "G5", only without having to install a petrol powered generator and industrial cooling to run the thing.


Interesting.

And the cooling system on the dual dual core Mac towers was only that over-engineered so as to provide as quiet a cooling solution as possible. A more regular system could have been employed but it'd have been louder. IIRC the heat output from a G5 was in the same league as an Athlon64 of the same vintage.
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 11:01:51 PM »
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Just to be clear we will not tolerate extreme slander against A-Eon on Amiga.org. Or against AROS or MorphOS for that matter. Offenders will be banned until 1 Yottabyte SSD's are common.


And what happens if/when this "extreme slander" (btw, its only slanderous is it's spoken, on a written forum it would be classed as libel) turns out to be true? See the Eyetech A1 problems for clarification.
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 11:24:58 PM »
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@the_leander

If it's based in fact it's not slander.


Clearly you've never read into English Libel law ;).

But beyond that I just want to make my position clear so that there isn't any misunderstanding:

The A1 had critical flaws in it's chipset. This is now accepted and (fanatics notwithstanding) agreed upon by the community as a whole.

However, at the time Eyetech actively squelched any mention of these flaws and even went so far as to co-opt the aid of another forum (who shall remain nameless) to act as it's agent in silencing any negative statements. It could well be seen as aiding and abetting fraud imho.

At the time Eyetech were seen by many in the OS4 crowd to be the second coming and it was not unusual to see any criticism of that denounced as lies or otherwise libellous. My big fear here with you saying what you have (understandable from a legal standpoint I suppose) is that legitimate issues could be similarly silenced.

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Amiga.org is a very easy going community and we try and not be forum police. Everyone can form their own opinion about matters and enjoy healthy debate about Tech topics. If it becomes hurtful or slanderous to members or compaines then a mod may have to step in. Common sense and respect for others goes a long way.


I hope so.
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 11:28:32 PM »
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Something like this? http://amigairc.amigarevolution.com/traitors.html


Man that is one whole hell of a lot of crazy! Also cool is the redirect that kicks in after a minute or so :lol:
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 11:29:37 PM »
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Oh wait... Yes, that does look familiar :roflmao:


Didn't I point this out to you a few weeks ago? I have no idea what I was searching for though to bring it up :confused:
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 12:35:19 AM »
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Maybe i should also report you on AmigaWorld for calling people names and liars?
You are not the riht person to talk about getting personal.
And you are behaving like a thick person when you after all these months still have no clue.


Pot kettle black sir.

Also, what happens on other forums stays on other forums, quit dragging your drama here.
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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 12:51:03 AM »
Quote from: Tomas;565560
It is he who is continuing his agenda against hyperion/a-eon.




Neither I nor anyone else here cares. Stop dragging what happens on other sites onto here. There is no need for it, trust me, there are enough histrionics sufferers on here as it is.

Also, try Karlos's suggestion, it's super effective. :roflmao:

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I am sick and tired of people like him who constantly post in any OS4 related thread just to spread shit.


Again:

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Re: A-EON Technology CVBA and Varisys Ltd Announce Partnership
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 02:44:32 AM »
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Maybe you will, the biggest advantage you all have is the ability to run on top of Linux.


Actually their biggest advantage is not being tied to sucky overpriced underpowered hardware. Oh and being Opensourced. And not having anything to do with the pit of fail that is Ben Hermans.

Being able to run hosted under linux is kinda cool, but way down on the list of advantages.

 
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But I like OS4 and MorphOS better, I will be getting a mini from a friend soon, and i hope the X1000 does well, i


Agreed and I hope your experience with the mini is a good one.

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but unless the PPC manufacturers get a better CPU in the next few years, we will fall behind again. :(


AFAIK PPC has never really been ahead and only very briefly on a few separate occasions on a level playing field with x86 in terms of performance. The last time was the initial release of the G5's, which put them briefly on par with Athlon64's of the same vintage. But within a year the playing field had moved again.

What you have in the X1000 is basically a marginally more modern Circa 2004 G5 PowerMac.
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