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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #44 from previous page: August 08, 2008, 10:45:13 AM »
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I happen to be British also, and I too would perfer to not be refered to as European... because I'm not.


On denial? :roll: What would you be, American? Asian, Afro?


Shocking as it might seem, maybe, just maybe, he's British...

I know, odd concept. But there you go.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2008, 10:48:03 AM »
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I'm not up with the politics over at AROSland, so I'd like to know: what does the closing of the TeamAROS site mean?  is it a portal like this site (meaning that the closing sucks, but it's not a dent in the big picture), or more of an important hub?  I've also heard that some important AROS core devs have decided to call it quits following this, so all AROS development moving on will be x86 only.  Is this true?


Really it's just changed hands. All of the TeamAROS bounties have transfered to Power2People. Business as usual really... though we won't have Dammy nagging us to support the bounties :-(

No devs have quit because of this. And AROS has two primary branches now... with PPC and x86 being actively maintained...

Anyone want to get back into 68k Dev work?


Ya know, if I thought for a second he wouldn't get Nicholas (MDMA) to pay me a visit for increasing his already insane workload I'd suggest Karlos  :lol:
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2008, 08:32:57 PM »
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I happen to be British also, and I too would perfer to not be refered to as European... because I'm not.


So what continent do you come from then?

You have to be pretty uptight and stupid to believe that the British isles are not part of Europe just because you dont fancy EU or whatever. If you as Brits are not European, then _noone_ is European.

And please stop changing the meaning of words, sheesh!


There is nothing and no one here changing words except you, who seems to insist on being able to inform people what their nationality is based on continental plates.

We are not European because it is simply not part of our identity, our culture has very little in common with any other country in Europe, or indeed with America.

Oh and the whole all or nothing thing, knock it off, it makes you look an even bigger prat then you do for thinking yourself capable of telling other people what their nationality is based on either geo political ties or tectonic plates.

It's just not cricket old bean  :-D


@ the rest of the people reading this thread.


I would like to take this oportunity to apologise sincerly and most humbly... For invoking the name of Athiest and thereby encourage him to post in this thread.

I hope, in time, that you will be able to forgive me  :-(

PS, told you I wasn't making a crack about someones religous beliefs  :lol:
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »
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Think of something closer to the HAL9000 from Stanley Kubrick's "2001 - A Space Odyssey".


Ah, so, no memory protection there then either - bonus being that when it guru's it'll blooter ya  ;-)

Seriously though, not a bad thing I suppose, AI is definately cool though I'm none too sure as to how far along such research is at the moment. The last AI stuff I played with was, whilst quite clever not something that'd beat a turing test.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2008, 06:39:09 AM »
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Atheist wrote:
Correct this statement if it's wrong:

AOS is the ONLY OS that can restart running in RAD: independent of ANY external devices.*


* Devices being: floppy disk, hard disk CD, DVD, CF card, swap files, etc. etc.


You're so wrong about that - and everything else computer related you've ever posted - that it hurts to read.


+++ QFT
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2008, 07:17:21 AM »
Woo, and bonus points for using an Atari as the example  :lol:

...And the crowd goes wild!

 :-D
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2008, 10:56:46 AM »
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@the_leander,

Seems your wish has been answered.  He is posting all over the place now (I don't know anything about your "invited one").


Less a wish and more of a calculated risk in saying his name  ;-)

As for invited, I meant that in the same way as "speak the devils name and he shall appear"...

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2008, 11:08:56 AM »
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Any expert system that couldn't keep itself from overwriting its own memory would be effectively worthless.  Every thought would essentially be a tapeworm, destroying data as it was created.

Hi B00tDisk,

And yet my Amiga 2000 using AOS1.3.3 runs?


Something that isn't an AI.

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And yes, why chastise me for being selfish and wanting a ONE USER computer/OS? PC is for Personal Computer not Politically Correct, and sharing my toy with all comers.


Right up till the moment that your mate asks you to use your computer for a bit, and whilst there, decides to start poking around, discovering all these wierd looking files, and promptly deletes, renames or moves em depending on desire.

I've seen it happen too many times. Hell, I've had to undo the damage enough that it simply isn't funny any more.

There are perfectly good reasons for having a tiered system of access on a computer, stopping people with too little knowledge to understand and just enough to do damage is one of them.

I like when I let someone access the net through my systems that I don't have to worry about the integrity of my documents and pictures.

If it's what you want, great, fantastic and more power to you. Thing is though, the rest of the world, that being one with a clue of course, want their *own* accounts, customised to their particular likes and dislikes without having to worry about other people using the machines preferences. The like that on the odd occation that their application does croak, it doesn't bring down the rest of them and the computer with it, they just restart the app and get on with things.
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2008, 09:25:16 PM »
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There is nothing and no one here changing words except you, who seems to insist on being able to inform people what their nationality is based on continental plates.


I never mentioned nationality, but obviously you are confusing nationality and geography.


Geographically, the UK is an Island (Channel Tunnel not withstanding).

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We are not European because it is simply not part of our identity, our culture has very little in common with any other country in Europe, or indeed with America.


Ah yes, the British - so unique, so special - unlike the homogenous group of Europeans that live around them.


I look to the continent and see a great many unique cultures, some sharing within that at the borders within any set of nations, but still unique. Britain, whilst the rest of Europe was busy burning witches and heretics for instance, was building on the very latest scientific advances that would put it in good stead for the next 500 years.

See, being an islander you have something of a unique perspective on the world, moreover, being on this particular piece of land, we were able to watch Europe close enough to see what was going on, but far enough away to be fairly impartial about it.

It allowed us to develop in ways that simply wouldn't have worked anywhere else - because of that seperation by water.

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Oh and the whole all or nothing thing, knock it off, it makes you look an even bigger prat then you do for thinking yourself capable of telling other people what their nationality is based on either geo political ties or tectonic plates.


Again, this is not about nationality, dumbass. And it's not about your precious feelings. It's all about your location and tectonic plates - yes. And whether you like it or not, the British share history, language, culture and just about anything with most European countries.


Yes, they do. We are what happens when you throw all of the cultures of Europe at their heights (Romans, Normans, Vikings etc) into a melting pot and allow to simmer for a few centuries, we are what is left when all the chaff is removed.

We have such a strong sense of independance because scumbags from all over Europe have, time and again tried to take that away from us. The reason we, for the most part do not like being refered to as "Europeans", is because we have faught so bitterly hard to stop Europe from dominating us.

I am British. Not European.

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You can be as non-european as you like, the rest of the world will still consider the british isles as part Europe.


And yet, interestingly, many large trading blocks, such as the US for the most part still go on about "Britain and Europe". Part of Europe, but not Europe.

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It's just not cricket old bean  :-D


No, it's also about driving on the left side of the road, clinging to the emperial system and walking around in tweeds. And sticking the nose in the sky, thumping your chest and claiming "I'm British - not European!"  :lol:
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Hey, just because you folk decided to follow the road laws set down by a Portuguese dwarf is not our problem   :lol:

A Portuguese dwarf that happened to be beaten by the British, btw  :-D
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Re: Wither Natami?
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2008, 11:58:39 PM »
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If you can, try and find an old European... sorry I mean British, TV series called "Ripping Yarns"...

Here are a few clips to start you off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHo8kqdRpLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTCLi9w1Vws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FawTzTY5RAU


As it happens there was a BBC 2 special on that included Ripping Yarns as part of its coverage.

 :-D
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