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Re: burn, baby, burn...
« on: February 09, 2005, 04:42:07 AM »
If you're looking at a new PC and specifically I will warn you, that even the fastest VIA Nemiah (or however they're spelled - basically their top end chips) are only comparable with Pentium 2's in general usage.

Honestly you'd be fine with an Athlon XP with a decent cooler on it (IE, not the stock one). I had one with a water cooler and even on the hottest of days the thing at full tilt never rose above 40C, even overclocked as much as it was (1.6Ghz stock up to 2.0Ghz).

At stock rates, with a reasonable qualty heatsink fan combo you should be expecting operating temps between 35C and 45C idle and at full tilt running at about 55C. They are superb chips, if you want to get clever, look for Athlon XP mobility chips, they run cooler and draw much less juice without effecting their performance. They are also Socket A chips.

Now, if you think that the P4 is too hot to handle, perhaps you should consider the Pentium M series CPU's, at 1.6Ghz they will laugh at anything a 2.8Ghz P4 can do, and do it using far less gogo juice (and thus run cooler) into the bargain. They're not as cheep as AthlonXP's or Mobility XP's, but they are solid performers that you should consider. I believe Asus make boards for Pentium M in a microATX form factor as well.

I could assemble a kit list for you if you wish.
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Re: burn, baby, burn...
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 06:21:03 AM »
The readings I gave were from mbm5, I honestly can't see an Athlon64 running that cool, not with the stock cooler, especially given the Abit boards web boards. I don't know, perhaps the newer models do run cooler, but in my experience with AMD64's with the stock cooler, its simply not effective at cooling the thing. No amount of re-adjusting or putting on arctic silver instead of the pink goop thats on the thing as standard drops the temp. I dunno, perhaps I've got a duff one... But I will need a far more effective cooling solution if I want to keep this system beyond next year in a servicable condition.
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Re: burn, baby, burn...
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 10:52:32 AM »
I intend to get myself a naffing great heatsink like the CoolerMaster Hyper 6 shown here Rather then muck around with having to sand the damned thing. Normally I'd avoid Cooler Master like the plague, but this particular cooler seems to be amoung the best available.

All AMD64's are SOI chips, mine is however a 130nm version (as are all socket 754 Athlon64's.)
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