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um, I wouldn't remove all the cards right away. perhaps its better to just try without the hard drives first. keeping in mind that scsi needs proper termination. also check if everything is firmly seated, perhaps transport has moved something inside.
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Re: I received my Amiga 4000T and I am facing a problem with it...
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2011, 11:48:39 PM »
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Once again. No 4000 will show a KICKstart pic. Kickstart is in rom.
What you should see is a insert Workbench disk screen.
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say what?
it doesn't matter if some call it  'insert workbench disk *animation*' or kickstart.pic, its the same thing. and its still in rom.
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Re: I received my Amiga 4000T and I am facing a problem with it...
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 09:07:41 AM »
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I have a little problem with my Amiga 1200D. I need someone to help me with this. In the Amiga 1200D that I got it have a SCSI expansion card installed into it...when I hook the external SCSI hard drive box with the CD-ROM the Amiga 1200 does not detect it all. No matter what I do it does not detect the CD-ROM or the HD from the SCSI cable. Another problem I am facing, it does not have a HD installed into it..but it takes like a complete minute before the kickstart screen appears, and the floppy disk does not work. However, ones the kickstart 3.1 screen appears and I place the floppy disk it takes 20 seconds after inserting the floppy disk for the Amiga 1200 to read the disk. However, when I soft reboot the system it goes into black screen and wait another one complete minute before the kickstart screen appears...but the disk drive no longer read the floppy disk even earlier it read it before. I do not know what to do. I want TO SOOO BADLY WHEN I USE the SCSI cable the SCSI CD-ROM works. Both the CD-ROM and HD are placed inside a PC case with a power supply and a long SCSI cable hooked into the back of the A1200 SCSI port.

but when I place a copy of Amiga OS 3.5 into the CD ROm my Amiga 1200 does not see it nor the HD either....I am torn!! I reaaally want badly to get my A1200 working. Thanks in advance!!


its normal having to wait for a minute if there is no hdd. you need to check scsi id and termination. connecting external scsi devices might be complicated. did it come with them? because (iirc) for them to work, you might need to disable the builtin external scsi terminator. better do that later. you should probably check the cables again, esp floppy.
btw, during those 20sec is there floppy drive activity?
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Re: I received my Amiga 4000T and I am facing a problem with it...
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 04:18:12 PM »
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I got the floppy disk work, I opened it and replaced the cable and it works. The SCSI port is an add-on. It is a tiny little port hooked into the expansion card by attaching the tiny little port into the card's board and by screwing them together. How do I disable the builtin external scsi terminator? It doesnot have any switches or anything like that. How do I disable the terminator all together? Thanks in advance.
 
By the way the scsi port of the amiga 1200D is a tiny little board enough to fit in that space at the end of the SCSI port board are two holes when I attacht the scsi board into the expansion card then I screw them together that is how it works.


i think you need to remove small board (shown here at the top:
http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo2.pl?id=a4000t&pg=5&res=hi&lang=en )
and then connect the internal cable 'directly'.
but i'm not sure..
tbh, I've never connected external SCSI to any Amiga.

btw, be sure to check the (audio) capacitors on A/V module, they've leaked on mine long ago
« Last Edit: December 26, 2011, 04:22:03 PM by orange »
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Re: I received my Amiga 4000T and I am facing a problem with it...
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 07:33:39 AM »
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Orange, I am confused by that... ^ .. I dont think a4000T will work without the ports module... And I believe that termination means at the BEGINNING of the SCSI chain...

Anyway, for the 2 days that my 4000T worked, I had 2 CD-r drives on the Cyberstorm SCSI, and a 100MB Zip on the 4KT's built-in SCSI.. Had no issues.
Honestly, SCSI on a miggy isn't all that hard, usually..
YMMV, tho...


I understood that this terminator module that goes on ports module.
yes, but you need termination on both beginning and end. and there would be two chains, one internal and one external.
since most of us don't have external devices, it should have ending termination on by default.
   but perhaps termination isn't needed if there is no cable or device?
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Re: I received my Amiga 4000T and I am facing a problem with it...
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 11:33:18 PM »
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Orange, yes you are right.. I didn't phrase that very well. I only meant to remind about termination at the beginning, as some ppl. aren't aware of this... Sorry, my bad.

For terminating the end, there's a DIP switch on the back panel of the 4000T.

And I guess I am the only one still using internal AND external SCSI devices...
I tried fitting my scanner internally.... it wouldn't fit! :D


ahh, I suspected the DIP had it. but guess it don't matter now since its desktop model.
as for the scanner, you can always get the internal professional film/negative one, to fit proper worldview :)
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