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Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« on: September 18, 2010, 09:55:25 PM »
Is there any reason you couldn't use one of these instead?
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=918

It would possibly be less than finding and shipping a flyback. And are you sure that's the problem. I know they do go bad, but I've seen other bad components make it appear to be a bad flyback. Of course if it's burned the case or motherboard, it's a good bet to be the flyback.

Plaz

Edit: Yeah, my lucky 1300th post.
 

Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 11:59:57 PM »
Try this link, they may have the correct one for your model.

http://www.hrshop.es/index.php?command=search&by=marca_model&marca=COM&model=1084


Commodore 1084S D = DaeWoo CMC 1412A

Here is also a list of Equivalent Flybacks to search for.
I have found some of these in stock on the internet, but you may need to find one close to your home.

HR46045
DCF1580
DCF1580E
KFS60559 (Deawoo)
BSC23-21550
MSH-1FCT31 (MSH1FCT31)

Plaz
« Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 12:53:45 AM by Plaz »
 

Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of a flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 12:48:16 PM »
Typically I've found cross referenced parts work well. There is always that 1% chance a substitute part does not perform. I was able to track this flyback information from serveral sources, so personally I would not have a problem installing the substitue.

Over 27 years I've repaired a couple thousand monitors, replace hundreds of flybacks and often used substituted parts when necessary. Another thing that's VERY important in high voltage section repair is to find and replace any other componets that failed along with the flyback. Often a flyback will wipe out other parts when it fails. How often I've seen techs replace a couple of bad parts, turn on the monitor and fry the same parts all over again. :P All bad parts must be identified and replaced before turning it on again.

It's also possible for other components to die that give the appearance that the flyback has failed when it hasn't. In the case of your 1084S though, flyback is a common failure. I'm not bashing your tech guys, and they might be great. But I'll just warn that I've also repaired monitors first looked at by other techs. I think the repair was too difficult for them so they claimed flyback failure and gave large repair esimates I guess in the hope that the customer would go away.

If possible have your techs replace EVERY electrolytic capacitor. After 20+ years, they are all bad or going bad and can cause a bad picture or a newly repaired monitor to fail again. They are not very expensive. The whole monitor can probably be done for $10-20US

One last item... I have seen monitors that have "leaky" picture tubes. (at least 2 of them were 1084's) The bad picture tube causes the flyback and high voltage circuit to be over worked, run hot and fail again soon. This is rare, but worth knowing if you get your monitor repaired and it dies again after a short time.

BTW, you can get a look at my most recent monitor repair here.... :)
http://s544.photobucket.com/albums/hh331/PlazinJavelin/StarGate/


Good luck

Plaz
 

Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 08:12:21 PM »
Sounds like you have the right person to repair your monitor then. Just need the correct part.

As for winding your own... not unless you're an expert. I havn't done a winding myself since 1977 and that was just for testing. I didn't use it in a repair. HV is normally 12,000 - 36,000 volts. You don't want to mess with that.

Plaz

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Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2010, 12:01:34 AM »
You might also look for older Daewoo, Philips or Magnavox monitors that have the proper inputs. In the PC world they were called CGA monitors.  These are the same monitors that Commodore put their name on and you might find them cheaper. Also look for old multisync monitors. For years I used an NEC multisync that had all the correct connectors and worked great with my Amigas. Make sure any multisync you look at has a freq range of 15Khz-31KHZ at least. Many don't go down to the 15K that you may require.

Plaz
 

Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2010, 11:51:37 AM »
BTW... as for multisyncs I'd forgotten I also had a Mitsubishi AUM1381, that worked well with Amigas http://abcresellers.com/store/product201.html. You might ad similar models to your search.

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I've thrown away no less than 5 108x monitors over the past few months


Now you're just rubbing salt in the guy's wound.

Plaz
 

Offline Plaz

Re: In desparate need of flyback for 1084S-D1! Please HELP!
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2010, 03:30:21 AM »
Glad you found a good substitute. Maybe start saving for a flicker fixer now for that next rainy day.

Plaz