Miami Any News?

[Plaz]

Many, many threads and discussions have circulated over the past years about Miami and Holger. The quickest and most painless answer to this timeless question has been to upgrade your classic amiga to OS3.9 - It has it's own built in tcp/ip stack. Holger has not responded to registration request in years.
Here's a link to the features page... Haage & Partner (AmigaOS)

There was another package called netconnect3 that gave any 3.x amiga tcpip, but I don't know if that's still available. There are still shareware versions tcpip stacks on aminet file servers, but they have demo limits.

Plaz

[Plaz]

And as I understand it, Genesis is what they call the AmiTCP based core of OS 3.9. OS 4 is called Roadshow if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know if that's still based on AmiTCP or not.

Plaz

[Plaz]

Interesting, thanks for clearing that up. So even when I buy a legit OS3.9 copy, I'm still a pirate. The good news for me then is that I have my own reg'ed copy of Miami. So what is the status of Roadshow in OS4? Is that one legal now I hope? If OS3.9 has illegal copies of Amitcp, then why no legal action? NSDI just didn't have the $$$ to persue? Seems this is a similar story of licensing problem with H&P that lead to the end of Amithlon. Not a good trend.

Plaz

[Plaz]

It would be great if it would be possible to still buy the real AmiTCP

Might have been if H&P had payed up for the license?
I hope OS4 is free and clear of such problems. (I think it is)

Plaz

[Plaz]

I'm afraid without Holger's permission, passing copies of his reg codes just isn't the good answer. Let me pose this question though. I don't recall the license details, but is it possible to buy a used code from a user that doesn't want or need it any more? (Not mine, I'm using it) Piru, you seem to know alot on the subject, is there any remaining legal registerable tcp stack for the classics? No Miami, no Genesis/AmiTCP. I don't see why Tomi shouldn't continue collecting $$$ registration for AmiTCP.

Plaz

[Plaz]

If you want to help in getting the product on the street this year, hassle the web master

So who's the webmaster and how do I hassle? :-)
Miami's done an ok job all these years, but I'm ready for an update.

that his a1200 hd died and he had no copies of the source or the license prog

That was one of many theories some of us were kicking around for fun a couple of years ago. No one was actually ever able to come up with any definitive emails, posts or news items from Holger that explained his departure from the amiga scene. For me it will be nice to finally end the Miami noise with Roadshow aparently close to being released. So if someone does know the real story, we just won't be curious any more. :-P



Plaz
 

[Plaz]

Can you pirate a program thats not for sale and that there is no developement or work of any kind being done on?

The answer is yes, check any copyright laws where you live. The bigger question is wether any one will prosecute you for it. Odds are small. But odds are much greater of annoying other developers who share this site as you talk of promoting such things. Beleive me, many of us have felt the same frustrations with our amigas and it's software limitations. There is plenty of help among the users here to get you going with tcpip, so please drop the pirate talk and let's move on.

@olsen

"webmaster (at) roadster-tcpip.com",

When I had a look at the site, first it asked for authentication. When you bypass that, the webmaster link displays "mailto:%5bno%20address%20given%5d" so that looks like a dead end. I will try your suggestion none the less and see what happens. (Bounce mail is forecast) :-)


Plaz