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Re: Sabrina has bought a new Amiga!
« on: May 01, 2004, 09:53:55 AM »
That seems unlikely, though. OS4 doesn't even support user accounts. It makes me wonder just how the heck they intend to improve on system security, the biggest problem with Windows.

Actually, because Windows is a Multi User OS is the reason it has so many security problem.. That and because everything is integrated in the system (Mediaplayer, IExplorer, TCP/IP stack etc etc..)
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Re: Sabrina has bought a new Amiga!
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2004, 09:04:24 AM »
Just woke up.. I might not be able to explain what I mean.. Sometimes English is harder then I want it to be..

Actually, because Windows is a Multi User OS is the reason it has so many security problem.

Are you serious? Windows is designed to be used by multiple people, but it most definately does not utilize independent user accounts. The fact that any program can access any file has nothing to do with it?

Programs mostly get the same permission a user has. If a hacker has admmin rights the program he has taken control of has admin rights.. WinXP's "Run As" feature is a good example for this.

What I ment is that because Windows is a Multi User OS it has security holes in it. Either by design flaw or by oversight.

There is a thread at Amiga World that covers this IRRC, I'll see if I can find it.. (About Amiga OS and multi user accounts)

That and because everything is integrated in the system (Mediaplayer, IExplorer, TCP/IP stack etc etc..)

So? It doesn't matter if a tool is built into the OS or not. What matters is what permissions it has. IE, MediaPlayer, and Outlook are insecure because even though the executables are located outside the Windows folder, they frequently poke around the system folders and write config information into the monolithic registry, which is just wrong. It's worth pointing out that Linux has TCP/IP built into the kernel, too (for performance reasons).

Offcourse it pokes around system folders, it needs system resources.. Not even M$ is stupid enough not to write the same code over and over and over again, so all it's programs use code storred in other programs/dll's..

For instance Outlook can't access webmail for instance if you deinstall Outlook Express (Sure, OE isn't a system resource but apperently is used as such)

If any of these tools has a security bug it can be used to exploit the entire system because they use the same resources. Yes, it may be a big design flaw in Windows, but I'm not so sure if Linux doesn't have similar issues.

We don't hear much about all security issues in Amiga OS do we ? is that because

There are none.
AmigaOS is to small to be noticed or hacked.

If Amiga OS was only given a single user loggin and the desktop could be locked that would be pretty much good enough.. If it doesn't have all the Windows Multi User features then that's fine.. That leaves file security, but most normal home users don't really care about that stuff..
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