Hyperion Entertainment Q&A Chat Log

[seer]

Not the way Hyperion see it, it´s right before the Q_A

[02:39 PM][02:39 PM] Rogue: The main reason is the unavailability of hardware. As you all know, AmigaOne's are not available right now, so we are not in a position to offer an OS 4 with a matching hardware.
[02:39 PM] Rogue: We DO think that once we release AmigaOS4.0, there will be a general interest in the news, in media, etc. We will get a lot of interest from people outside the amiga market, and they will ask where they can buy it.
[02:40 PM] Rogue: If we tell them they cannot buy it right now and need to wait until the hardware is available, then this will take away a lot of momentum that the release will generate.

Looking at it from that point of view they are correct.

Reading the rest of the session, update 4 is just about what the full release would have been.

Only thing we could ask for is some kind of beta for classic users

[seer]

They yet again dangle another carrot in front of the remaining faithful donkeys.

A bit of a trollish remark ? Unneeded.

hyperion clearly had no intention of releasing so-called OS4 final before xmas and clearly know how to put on a act to their faithful followers.

Appart from 1 "statement" on their website (Something like "Release date later this year") nobody said OS4 would be released before Xmas, but more around xmas time. If update 4 is as they said the same as a full release then what's your problem ? The "most needed" thing is "JIT and 3D both included in update 4.

Only the classic users maybe left out (again). Those rwho bought an A1 are not.

Oh, and FYI, no I don't have an A1, nor a working PPC classic anymore. I don't have the intention to buy OS4 or MOS at this time or in the near future.

hyperion has lost all credit from where i am looking, as far as i am concerned they are just as dead in the water as amiga inc is.

A Inc has been quiet for some time and made claims that were never true and did some stuff that only hurt the Amiga. Intentional or not doesn't matter. IMHO Hyperion did no such thing. Like the MOS and Aros guys the did deliver.

[seer]

Real reason behind this delay is that Hyperion needs to *pay* their 3rd party coders when they release final OS4 .. These beta-releases are essentially free for them cause no-one gets nothing from Hyperion until OS4-final is out.

Ok, so what's wrong with that ? They never claimed they didn't need the money or that they did OS4 for free. Releasing OS4 now won't bring in any money at all as most A1 users allready have OS4 and paid for it (either in full or part of it). And like you said the few classic users aren't going to pay for the bills either.

Being super optimistic and counting both members on AW and A.org at around 8000 users.. With 2000 allready having bought OS4.. Let's say 2000 users with a working PPC ? 50 or 100 dollar a copy.. Hm..

No OS4 final until there are enough sales to cover both Ainc lisences

And how much is this license ? Nobody seems to know right ? Could be 1% of total sales. Could be 50 dollars for each copy. For all we know Amiga Inc is long gone  :-P

[seer]

that At the Beginning.. Hyperion publicly (and privately) announced that OS4 Would be final in THREE MONTHS (target was march 2002)..

Wasn't that for the escena/eyetech board ? Things went a bit different there... If that board was made who knows, we would be up to OS4.5 now maybe.

Instead, Hyperion has been using and distributing these unpaid programs/drivers etc (as a beta releasess) for allmost Four years without payments, and there is no obvious end in sight. You tell me, is it rigth to mis-use loose wording on contract that way???

I don't hear the programmers complaining ?