potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

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Nintendo has announced this already.

eh... So because Nintendo announced the game it's gonna kick ass ?  :-?

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Are you really going to argue about their quality?

No, but saying "Nintendo is making it, so it will be good" is not a good argument..

Honestly, I used to be a Nintendo hater in my foolish youth but the company has won me over.

I find this a bit BS.. I buy a product if it is good and does what I want it to do. Not because it's from Nintendo, Sega, MS , Atari.. Besides, companys change.. They get different Management, other employers.. Look at Westwood for a nice example on how a game studio that made the best RTS games and what they are now..

How anyone can hate a company is really beyond me.

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With business practices like this:

As a consumer, I hardly care what 2 businesses do to each other..



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Is it me or is this a bit similar to those red vs blue war BS ?

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I call that a work-around. LOL, minus one PCI slot.

And where does it say the fix makes 1 PCI slot unuseable ? They don't discuss what the HW fix is at all.

Or if you are refering to the "PCI-based IDE controller" that's is not the fix.

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n the end, they went with NVidia and Intel and that's what kept their hardware costs so high and prevented them from making a smaller loss on the hardware.

Well, MS doesn't really care I suppose, plenty off money to spent, the Xbox was just to get into the market, they succeeded at that.

They knew very well what needed to be done for it to become a succes. Did it do as good as MS wanted/hoped ? Ask MS, only they know.

Now they are in the console market, and pretty big for a new kid on the block. (Ad yes, they were new in the hardware/software console market). Commodore failed at that as well remember.

Some people suggested that the Xbox was a testing field for palladium as such, it may have failed as well, but that's the reason for testing.

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The website clearly states that that is the fix

No it doesn't say the PCI IDE controler is the fix. Why would an A1 owner need to send the board in so they can put in thePCI card ?

As for the link, hop on over to amigaworld and ask around about the fix. Don't be afraid of the red tint there., it's not that bad. Also, if you read the comments in your link you can see it is clear that the PCI controller isn't the HW fix.

Maybe that's why there is no OS4. How can you release an OS for a hardware platform that is not stable at all?

That's just a troll remark, sorry. You scream when (you think) somebody is trolling at you but you can't stop your self.

Put your money where your mouth is, set up a business, contact Amiga Inc, Nintendo and get the job done. Nobody else is willing to take the gamble.

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It seems they felt it was an issue. Nobody like to lose money...NOBODY.

The Xbox project was a calculated risc, top management of MS knew that. To get into the market you need to spent money. With the Xbox 1 the got into the market. With Xbox 360, the are getting ready to make money of the Xbox project.

If Xbox 1 failed, MS might have pulled the plug on the Xbox project.

MS could afford to take this risk. Hardly anybody can take on Nintendo or Sony. Sega chickened out..

It may not sound smart to loose money on a project, but in a market as consoles you'd better be prepared to do so if you want to get in.

Also, you got any venture capital money that you can send my way to get this project going?

Your plan, your needs, your ideas, you get the money and work it out. Nobody NOBODY is willing to gamble on your idea. If anybody did, you wouldn't be here crying I want OS4 on Nintendo.

Go to a bank, or a VC. Give them your business proposal (You do have one do you ?). See if they want to gamble with you. I highly doubt that.

How can you accuse me of a troll comment when this thread is exactly about NOT using the A1 and using something cheaper

Because it was trolling. "There is no OS4, A1 hardware is buggy. The fix is useless". Talk to the A1 owners, most of them are happy wth their "unstable" boards.

You don't even know what the fix is. You believe it's a PCI IDE controller.

Oh, perhaps you can contact Acill. At least he was willing to put his money were his mouth was, getting OS4 ported to the Pegasos2. To bad the red trolls made it impossible. Maybe you can convince him in an port to nintendo


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We're not paying Intel and Nvidia this time," he explained, referring to the exorbitant price paid out each time an Xbox was manufactured.

That doesn't say MS or even Holmdahl think that making a loss on the Xbox was an isue.

Holmdahl simply stated that Intel and Nvidia aren't getting money. The good reporter then added that Holmdahl is supposedly reffering to the "exorbitant price"..  

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Enough current Amiga owners cried out and suddenly OS4 and the A1 were born. If enough cried for OS4 on Nintendo or Xbox 360 or PS3, something would happen. Me doing it by myself has been discussed already and is a dead issue

I've seen a few people in this thread that seem to support you.

Take the roll of a leader, contact them, set it up. Don't keep on going here. This way, nothing is going to happen. Nobody is going to do what you want just because you think the idea is good.

People wanted a A500/A1200 style case for the A1. A few guys took the ball and are trying to run with it. They are not rich, but at least they are not talking on the forums "Please please make my idea happen". They are doing everything they can to get it done.

People wanted a G5 PPC amiga. 1 guy tried to get that done. AFAIK, he "failed". At least he tried to set it up.

So.. What have you done so far ?

but maybe you could refer Acill to this topic then.

Me? Why should I do anything for something I don't want and the original poster doesn't seem to want to make happen himself ? Acill is a member of this forum, try to find him in the memberlist or search functions.

Or do you really think he would bite if I contacted him and he discovers you didn't want to take the effort of contacting him yourself ? Good plan ! Let's get involved with somebody and spent my money with somebody who doen't do anything himself.

Sorry, you sound like you only want the easy way.

Even today people STILL don't grasp what the MAI problem is.

Problem is, different "experts" say different things about the MAI problem. The red ones say it a feature not implemented by Linux drivers, the blue ones call it a bug. You seem to think the blue version is correct. Most A1 owners prefer the red version tho.

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All I can say is if you don't support this topic then why bother posting in it?

You want support ? Stop posting and start doing something. People support those who do something, not those who only ask.

You think I'm anti topic ? Read again, I told you what you need to do in order to get what you want. If I was anti topic I would have said, give it up.

Sadly, this is the norm and not the exception for new/different ideas...

If you did something instead of posting you might get somewhere. People have tried to tell you that since the beginning of this thread. You simply don't listen.

They have also tried to tell you why nobody is going to get OS4 on a Nintendo console. From a technical point of view to a business point of view. You either simply ignored them or countered them. I'm not saying you are wrong with your hardware arguments, neither am I saying you are right.

Sofar, all you have done is asking other people to do what you want. It doesn't work that way.

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So while I am moving forward in some areas, I am limited by both time and money.

People who do this for a living (Hyperion & Eyetech) are not

Excuse me? Are you saying that Hyperion has the time and money to port OS4 to a Nintendo console ??

are just waiting for it to crash and burn before they release OS4 on another platform.

According to Hyperion and Amiga Inc, OS4 is allready running on non A1 or Classic PPC Amiga's.

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in beta... Again it boils down to being able to release a stable product.

I was refering to the "fact" that OS 4 is allready running on other hardware then the A1 because of your are just waiting for it to crash and burn before they release OS4 on another platform. line. That OS4 is beta has nothing to do with that.

Anyway, most OS4 Beta users think is ready for release.

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I mean if Hyperion decided that OS 4 was to be ported to the GC

Hyperion has nothing to decide about where Amiga OS4 is going to be ported to. At best they can make a suggestion to Amiga Inc.

Well, the A1 is dead.

They said MOS was dead to... It's still being developed. So MAI might be gone, no official news. And yet the same old story..

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Why they didn't just sandbox everything and make a fresh, modern system is beyond me.

Erm.. Morph OS did that IIRC ?