Windows as secure as OSX....

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Found this  link on <> moobunny.. Seems every "big" OS has the same amount of security problems.

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It's not an application, it's an operating system.

Yeah, thought about that one to (tho with all the stuff that comes with Windows you could argue is an "OS Application").

There are other little things about the article that's a bit.. weird..

I posted this link because I think it's only fair that users of Linux/OSX are aware of problems in their security.. Most think they have none, and that only Windows has problems..

BTW, secunia has an big list of "tested" products..

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Same goes for IE versus mozilla

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No. It has long been simply an "application" which runs over DOS. Even now, Windows XP has to emulate DOS for it to work.

You're describing Windows 95/98. This isn't the case for Win NT4 / 2000/ XP. There is no DOS in 2000 / XP, it's more like a UAE type of emulation (NTVDM.exe)

And don't mistake "console" programs with MS-DOS programs.

The only time you really see MS-DOS in XP is when you install it from CD as a clean install.

If XP was still running on MS-DOS (Notice MS-DOS, not just DOS, as that could be PC-DOS, Amiga DOS etc) it owuld be very easy to run old MS-DOS games/programs on XP.. While lots of them just don't run and only a few with getting the right settings..

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True, but that's not the point. An OS should be reasonably secure by default, not priding functionality over security.

Indeed. SP2 for XP does seem to set things right in that respect (a little), but then, the default settings would make acces to a XP/SP2 PC on an home network (workgroup) impossible without adjusting it..

Looking at it from a normal home user, having the least security options set is the easiest to get it up and running.. (NTFS and share permissions isn't everybodies cup of..)

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The only exception IMO is IE, and that should be given its own category of "bastard"

Well, I just figured out the best way to run IE.. Well except for not running it.. is to set the security zone for the default internet zone to highest, and put all the sites I visit in trusted sites ;-)

Whoop-de-do, you found a Mozilla vuln. That'll be something that happens approximately twice a year, rather than every week with IE :-)

Well, it's an start.. I'm sure we'll be able to find more ;-) :lol:

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@mikeymike

@ HopperJF

If I statements that demonstrated ignorance on such a level as you have, I'd expect to get flamed from here to next year

Did I miss something ? You allready responded to him ??

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Suggestions: Firefox Mozilla Opera

I know them all, not sure which one I prefer tho.. I do find myslef starting IE more tho.. It's easier and I'm lazy..

By all means please do.

I doubt that I will find any, I usualy don't go to weird sites.. (Why would anybody anyway, only by accident or searching for cracks I suppose ?)

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I cant remember the last time I got a real virus in any MacOS or AmigaOS system I have. The only ones I do see are from email and are Windows versions.

So the simple answer to the subject of this thread, is No.

That's not what's this is about, it's about no OS is as secure as we need/want it to be.

If you think you are safe from virus or other attacks just because you don't use windows, well, it's your loss..