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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« on: August 02, 2013, 03:44:27 PM »
@Themamboman

I don't know anything about AmigaOne 500 or AmigaOne X1000.


According to everything I have read the Pegasos II G4 with MorphOS or OS4 beat the pants off everything else in your list.

But you can get some sorts of old Macs that run MorphOS and are better.  Some old macs are worse, others are better, I can't keep all the models straight.  I am sure there are several MorphOS experts reading this who can tell us the fastest macs that run MorphOS.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 07:30:32 PM »
@Nicholas

Thanx dude!  You're a handy guy to have around!  I love timing tests!

Do you know much about those G4 and G5 machines?

I am thinking "Damn!  I want one of those MorphOS G5 machines!"

But then I am thinking "Wait, I don't want a blacksmith forge in my bedroom that can smelt iron.  I want something coooool so maybe I better get a 2.0Ghz G5 PowerMac instead of the 2.5Ghz version"

But then I am thinking "Wait, maybe they are different versions of the chip or different masks or whatever.  So for all I know the 2.5Ghz one runs cooler than the 2.0 Ghz version.  Like how my 50Mhz 060 is much cooler than my 25Mhz 040."

So do you know anything about their heat dissipation? (watts)


If you never had one or read up on them then I will "just assume" that I should aim for getting a lowly 2.0 Ghz model to keep the heat down.

Is there a list anywhere of TDP for both the CPU itself and the whole computer for all systems listed above?

I'm conservative so electrical efficiency is my prime criteria when selecting any type of computer and has been so since 1993.  I don't like wasting resources.  Using resources is ok but wasting them is not.   And it may seem weird but I also prefer to keep my money in MY bank account instead of the Electric Company's bank account.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 07:49:08 PM »
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@Hyperion

PLEASE port OS4 to Mac hardware, you are losing customers because of it.


Porting to old Macs is no longer relevant.  We are now in the Arm Age.
The macs were nice but they are no longer being built or upgraded.  They are in the past.

Arm machines are damn cheap with multiple machines available from multiple vendors brand new for $99.00 or less.
Arm machines get more powerful every single year.   And since they all run linux that means they can could also run MorphOS or OS4.

The Arm machines drink such a tiny amount of electricity compared to old Macs that you can buy yourself a new computer every single year with the money you save on your electric bill.  Its like getting a free upgraded computer every year.

I predict that whichever team ports to Arm first will crush the other team.

Piru, Ralph Schmidt, are you listening?
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 08:13:04 PM »
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Have you tried the Hyperclock utility to overclock that sam44ep-flex?


Overclocking wastes giant blobs of electricity.  Electrical consumption does not increase linearly.  I think it increases exponentially.  It would be smarter to underclock it.  Then next year buy yourself a new computer with all the money you saved on your electric bill from not overclocking it.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2013, 02:00:19 AM »
When I do a benchmark it is entirely science.  I did the benchmark so I know it isn't rigged.  I am not trying to sell anybody anything so it isn't marketing.  I just report the results.


As to the benchmarks in this thread some of them were performed by random forum members.  Are you claiming they lied or cheated in some way?

I have known Piru for many years and he has always been a good scientific Vulcan.  I don't believe for one second that he would rig a timing test. He is like me, he puts the facts first, ahead of anything else.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2013, 04:41:35 PM »
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As a SAM440ep-flex owner (800MHz version) I have bought the PCI to PCI-E adapter but haven't gotten hold of any drivers yet :(


Why can't you get the drivers?

Don't drivers come with the computer?
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2013, 06:14:59 AM »
If I bought a G4 or G5 MorphOS machine would it somehow in anyway help me to create OS4 software?

I only have classic Amigas now.

I will never ever have $3000.00 for an X1000.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 11:05:44 PM »
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No, you can`t run OS4 software on those. I also throught I will never be able to afford X1000 but will pay it in 60 months (59 now).


I don't expect to be able  to run OS4 software on MorphOS machines.

What I really meant, I guess, is "If I write a game that works perfectly on MorphOS G4/G5 then can I recompile the code using OS4 include files and it will work perfectly?"

Or are they just too incompatible with each other?

Is there a list somewhere of all the incompatibilities between OS3, OS4 and MorphOS?

As a developer I am totally confused about what functions I am allowed to use that will still work on other platforms as advertised.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2013, 01:18:30 AM »
@Itix

Thanx for  the infos!  I will stick with Motorola ByteCodes FTW!

And please don't let them break SASC compatiblity for the Classic building.

"I never used a proper debugger" is not an excuse to destroy compatibility with the debugger.


p.s. Good luck with upgrading Magellan!
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