For sale : Subway clockport USB

[ChaosLord]

@AmigaClassicRule

As long as you understand that USB wastes (notice I said "wastes" not "uses") horrendously huge amounts of cpu power to transfer data.  It will completely drag down your cpu.

That is just the way USB is designed.  They needed an excuse to force ppl to buy 3000 Mhz cpus so they invented a way to waste as much cpu power per bit as possible.

USB even drains your CPU power while the device is doing nothing.

Merely having any USB device connected is enough to start continuously draining your cpu power.

If you are still using a 50Mhz 030 u r in for a severe shock.

[ChaosLord]

This is only the case with the Highway/Subway controller chips -- and only for keyboards/mice or other devices that need interrupt transfers. With the Algor and Deneb cards, there's no such drawback -- the more sophisticated controller chips take care of the protocol overhead with no host side interaction.

Woah!  I never knew that!  Thanx for telling me that Chris!

I guess all the negative reports I heard were with Subway and maybe Highway too.

I will be sure in the future to not criticize Algor or Deneb.

So I can buy a Deneb or Algor card and use USB without any drawbacks?!??

I don't know anything about them.  Can I get one for my A1200T or A3000D?

While we are discussing USB, did WHDLoad ever fix the problem where no WHDLoad games would work while your USB stack was running?

What is the status of that problem?  I need to know so I can inform ppl correctly.

p.s. Thanx for coding such awesome USB stacks!
and quadruple thanx for tlsfmem!

[ChaosLord]

Anyone selling a Subway USB?

Get an Algor or a Deneb.  They don't bog down your cpu and are fast and system friendly.

[ChaosLord]

I went to Amigakit to read up on Algor and Deneb and got this msg:

There is no product that matches the search criteria.


I just can't win. :confused:     :huh:   :cry:

[ChaosLord]

Amiga Classic need absolutly a GOOD compiler C/C++, bug free

SASC is a great C compiler.  So is DICE.

No C++ but C++ suxx0rz the life out of ur CPU.  C++ = bloatware.

If u want C++ "stuff" just use E.  E is massively better.

If you want C then just use SASC or DICE.  SASC Source Level Debugger is lightyears ahead of GCC or VBCC.

and able to create one exe with auto CPU (000 to 060) detection into...

 There is no need to detect cpu by the C compiler.  What would it do?  Have 10 different exes all compiled into 1 like on Windoze?  Nobody on Amiga wants 5MB exe size for a simple cli command.  

No bloatware on Amiga!

[ChaosLord]

Here ya go..  Happy Christmas

https://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=795

Thanks Akiko!

Seems like it won't work on my A1200.  This card makes me wish I had not given away my A4000.  When I gave it away I could not think of a single card I would ever want to plug into a slot.  I should have just held onto it a few more years.  Oh well....

I could plug it into my A3000 but I would have to upgrade my buster chip and maybe some other chips.  And I would have to ship my A3000 off to have it done.  Would end up costing quite a bit of $$$.  I will think carefully if I should do it.

I never knew anything about the Deneb or the Algor card until right now and I still know nothing of Algor.

[ChaosLord]

Is Thylacine as good as Deneb?

[ChaosLord]

Just to let you know that not all WHD games work with USB stack. For example Addams Family works, but Batman the Movie does not.

What is the technical reason why Batman the Movie won't work with a USB stack enabled?

And how did Addams Family start to work but not Batman?