Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?

[ChaosLord]

I can understand why he isn't making 060 cards.  He is saving all the 060 chips for Natami and FPGAReplay boards.

I donno why he isn't making 040 cards tho.

Jens please please please please make an 040 card!

I wrote a game that really needs a cpu with a real L1 cache and high execution speed.  I burn all available cpu power rendering animations in the game at super high speeds.  In all of my many timing tests 040 provides a big boost over 030.

I can't realtime decompress mods, mp3s or soundfx on slooooooooow 030.
I can't do fullscreen rotation on 030.  Its just entirely too slow.

Please make an 040 card with 128MB of ram (or more) onboard.  The 128MB of RAM really helps out with the coding, debugging, multitasking etc. etc.

[ChaosLord]

Most of the old 68040 accelerators were 25Mhz which is like a 75Mhz 030.

But there was the WarpEngine 4040 which was 40Mhz for A2000 which was really zooooming fast.  I assume there is no way to use that in an A1200?

[ChaosLord]

All Natamis produced to date include a real 060 @~90Mhz

The expansion board for FPGAReplay also has a similar 060.  Probably the exact same kind.

If you can get ahold of an Apollo 040 or 060 card then Cosmos can mod it into an 80Mhz 060 for u.

[ChaosLord]

Chinese don't sell 68040s because they are too busy relabeling them as 68060s.

:laugh1:


u r joking, right?

btw: 2 teams of ppl have acquired numbers of those 060s and they really can go 100Mhz and they are real 060s.  Some have FPU some don't.  I think only the nonFPU chips can reach 90Mhz but I can't remember right now.

[ChaosLord]

Yup. It's Mc68060fe133.
Kinda weird looking, and lacking MMU (FPU?), but legit, and capable of 100+ MHz clocks.

Yeah I want one of the "slow" ones that is limited to 90Mhz but has MMU cause I needz it 4 my debuggin

[ChaosLord]

Nope, sent an inquiry to Freescale about the part number.

Return message stated the following:
"I can confirm that MC68060FE133 is not a valid Freescale part number".

Who are you going to believe, the company that designed the 68K series or some Chinese vendors?

Freescale did not design the 680x0 series.

[ChaosLord]

I would be interested on an ACA 060 if it included some SATA ports with DMA, PIO isn't fun

I agree with u that PIO sux.

[ChaosLord]

what is it that you ppl want to do on an amiga w/ AmigaOS with a 68060 that you can't do with an o'clocked 030 w/128+ megs ram?

just curious.

Realtime audio codecs.

Trying to play mp3s on 030 is not fun.

Compiling giant sources.

Calculating giant animations.

Full screen rotation.

Hispeed lha.

Webbrowsing at a decent speed.

Hispeed .jpg viewing.

030 has no built-in FPU.  Anything requiring FPU is horrifically sloooooooooooooooooow.  The FREE FPU built into the normal 68040 is much faster than an external 68882 FPU for 68030.  The FPU in the 060 is much faster than the 040 FPU.

68060 FTW!

[ChaosLord]

There is a 3.3V variant of the 040 that should run a lot cooler, but I don't know what it might be missing functionality wise.

Good point!  I forgot about that!

The original hot 68040 was a 5v chip.

The 3.3v 68040 should be nice and cool and able to do 40Mhz.

[ChaosLord]

The Natami team has bought into a Chinese falsehood.

Those chips ARE re-marked with a fake ID.

Maybe.

But if so, well everyone has bought into it since they are the same chips everyone is using these days for fast 060 cards.

As long as they work and are affordable, that is the main thing that ppl care about.

[ChaosLord]

In today's world, RAM is so cheap.  I don't see the point of making any CPU card with less than 1GB of RAM.  That is my view.

[ChaosLord]

The FPU on standard '60s wasn't that great anyway.

I donno what u mean by that.  I say the 060 FPU is awesome.  Sure it has less instructions than 040 FPU but it has the most common ones and they are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast.

[ChaosLord]

What is a 060 daughterboard? Wait is FPGAArcade like MiniMag an emulator in a hardware or is it a REAL THING? Like real CPU, real Custom chip, etc?

The 060 daughterboard is just an 060 accelerator +128MB RAM for the FPGAreplay/arcade.

The 060 daughterboard has a REAL 060 and REAL 128MB RAM.


The custom chips in the FPGAreplay are REAL custom chips engineered by a bunch of Amiga guys who got tired of waiting around for new hardware.  So they are not 100% compatible but they are supposed to be opensource so the compatibility steadily rises each year.

I don't have one yet because I have been waiting and waiting for the 060 accelerator option to be released.  As any Amiga with less than 060 is just not interesting to me.  No reason for me to buy a brand new Amiga that is worse than my 20 year old one.

When I get one I can give you more detailed info.

[ChaosLord]

Why is it that you total chaos site does not work?

Because the fan who ran it disappeared

It was such a beautiful site.  A black background.  Nice forums.  All reviews were there and easy to find.  All gone

There are other fansites but they have no forums and are hopelessly out of date.  They don't even have links to reviews or anything. :cry:

[ChaosLord]

if you are talking about highly optimized assembly routines and programs for 040/060 then I guess you have a point, esp when coupled w/ some of the overclocked 060s I'm hearing about.  

Amiga community is filled with guys who sit around all day writing highly optimized asm routines.

Only Amiga makes it possible.