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[dovi]

As an Atari user I am following development of an Apollo core very closely. It is amazing what have been done. But as Kolla said ... without FPU and MMU it is worthless to me. Some ST users would consider it but they are not "power" users and use their ST-s unaccelerated for playing games.

Most "power" Atari users use MiNT as OS which needs at least minimal implementation of MMU.

FireBee allready uses Coldfire CPU which is comparable fast to Apollo core. Regarding MIPS is about 4 time faster and regarding BUS speed and scalability is a lot slower. But as it seems there wont be MMU to apolo core in near future, we are looking for faster Coldfire solutions. They are available but not in our budget range
But we will try to find the agreement with IP-Extreme which is a holder of the Coldfire licences.

As Apollo core is really interesting product for Amiga comunnity I believe as Kolla said, it is a cripled CPU implementation and it will take time to be interesting for other 68k communities (if it wont be only Amiga oriented).

I wish I am wrong and that we would be able to use Apollo core also in our projects as suitable CPU soon ...

[dovi]

I will write here my toughts again as outsider (Atari user) as I follow Apollo core development as possible solution for Atari clones/accelerators (it is not in ussable state yet for us by my opinion).

I think the licences are not the problem for accelerators if it is not shipped to the user with preinstalled software which needs lisences. If it would come to the user with preinstalled AROS and user can change that to use AOS instead, it is up to user to take the risk of breaking licence.

If there will be a stanalone clone there could be more problems regardin that but this is to early to discuss that or better to say ... it is not productive at all!

The person who will invest the money into this project will take the risk of being sued because of violating any legal rights. And I believe that person will solve those problems before he will invest his money.

With this discussion here you are not productive, but you are destructive! Dont argue about the things you dont have to! You dont take a risk until you dont violate licences by yourself. If you violate licences, dont talk about that.  It is that simple

Amiga community (and Atari even more) is so small that dont play any role in computer world (today), but you are thinking as you are big players. Nobody cares about Amiga and Atari except "few" enthusiasts. And Amiga or Atari wont play any role in the future again.

BTW. Apollo core has potential ... also to be commercialy successfull. But ...