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Re: To hell with it.
« on: February 09, 2011, 05:23:07 AM »
...and yet there's the 1000 pound Elephant in the corner of the room.  ;)
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 07:19:15 AM »
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Do you mean Doom you cheeky bastard? :)

I actually do occasionally play Doom on my 1200. My friends are amazed it runs better than it did back in the day on their 386's :)


I first played it on a friends 386 and knew my beloved A500 was past its prime.

AB3D wasnt too bad on the A1200.
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 03:38:33 PM »
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On my ACA 030/56 card, Doomattack runs really good. What made a lot of people give up on their miggy's for these sort of games was running them on unexpanded 1200s I think.
Nobody in the PC world expected a 286 to run Doom, but us amiga users were used to our humble little 7mhz machine pulling off miracles :)


Yeah, at least the Amiga was something you didnt have to upgrade every five minutes.  And the A500 was silly expensive to upgrade anyway.  That platform got milked for almost 10 years, something a lot of other platforms would be envious of.  But the advent of 3D gaming and fast 16M colour 2D had the A500 showing its age, sadly.

PC users were used to upgrading their machines often and fairly cheaply.  When I got an A1200 It opened up inexpensive upgrades.  I got a 030@40Mhz card with 64MB and 68882 and was satisfied with that for a long time, but the flow of software eventually slowed to a trickle and a PPC upgrade wasnt good value to me, hence I defected.  ;)
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 02:08:01 AM »
Back on topic (sort of).

I left the Amiga scene around the time all the FPS's were made.  Years later, after owning a PS1 and PC I bought an A1200 and played through a lot of the things I missed.

THB, most Amiga FPS seemed a bit clumsy/unsophisticated to me, either in the gfx or gameplay compared to what I'd played on those other platforms.  

I think Breathless stood out as something on par with what the PS1 could do, this was pretty impressive as the PS1 was built for 3D and the Amiga wasnt. The A1200 probably should've had a 25-40Mhz '030 as standard.
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 03:00:34 AM »
Like Bruce Campbell movies.  Cheesy but enjoyable.
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 06:22:40 AM »
I loved Bubba Ho-Tep 1. If you liked that, watch My Name is Bruce.

On your first point; the A500 being the target platform for 99% of games is a real problem if you have something with better specs.
 
I was a bit frustrated once I had a moderately upgraded A1200 to find very little (any?) AAA titles that used my hardware.  For games, it was really not much better than owning an A500 apart from the FPS stuff.
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 06:35:53 AM »
I guess there wasnt room on the OCS/ECS floppy for AGA enhanced code, and anyway it would've been more work for a fraction of the market.  Still, for an eye candy junky, like me it wouldve been nice to see more sprites, rotation, scaling, transparancy effects in games.
 

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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 02:10:19 AM »
My first PC was a used 386 for $200.  A love/hate sort of thing so I didnt want to blow too much cash on a PC.

I soon got hooked on the incremental upgrade/tweak cycle, (loads of cheap used parts) 486DX board for $30, 8x as much RAM $20, bigger HD $10...  in the end that machine booted Win3.1 in about 5 seconds and was fast and stable and I actually liked using it.  AND to stay on topic, after the board and RAM swap FPS's flew; from 16-20 to 90+ frames per second, it was a massive visible upgrade.

To get similar for my A500 wouldve cost $1000+.
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Re: To hell with it.
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 09:07:24 AM »
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yeah, second hand helps. In hindsight, with the time Ive spent with an 030 lately, I wish I had gotten that on a 1200 rather than switch to a PC when I did :)

Not trying to bicker with you btw. Your experiences are just as valid as mine, just interesting to me that we ended up with different experiences.

Today at least, hardware is cheap even for brand new stuff, and with linux, there's finally something out there that isn't concerned with whether I am doing something MS/Apple doesn't want me to.

But maybe thats an entirely different thread :)

Unrelated but because its cool.. On a whim, I set up Ibrowse to use RAM as cache instead of the hard drive, and its moving a lot nicer now. Dont imagine I'll ever max out the 64 megs of RAM I have now, so its all good.

Getting kinda used to downloading files to RAM too, and then unpacking them to wherever they are supposed to go. Good stuff


Dont get me wrong, I wouldve upgraded my Amiga (back in the mid 90's) if I'd had the cash.  I used that machine exclusively just about every day for years.  When I got an A1200 with 030 years later I found out what I'd been missing, once youve had an Amiga with a HD and WHDload there's no going back to floppies. :)

I use Win, OSX and Linux almost daily now so I've kinda become platform agnostic, which isnt to say I dont find annoyances with each of them at times.