potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

[coldfish]

/insert $0.02

I have to admit, I'd be a lot more tempted by a OS4+GameCube-SX1 style daugterboard add-on, than any of the A1 packages.  

If no worthwhile software ever gets written for OS4, at least you've still got the modest GC game library to fall back on.

Running OS4 on the 'Cube is certainly possible, if not plausible.  Though It's a lot more plausible than some of the wishful thinking Ive heard, like "run OS4 on PS3".  Pfft!

I dont think the Amiga community gets to criticise ideas based on their plausibility...  :-P

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I like the thinking behind this thread, but as a reality it aint gonna happen anytime soon.  

Firstly, Nintendo has no interest in supporting a foreign OS that presently accounts for what, <0.1 percent of the OS market?  If they did need an OS, Im sure they'd roll their own.

...or just buy the Amiga IP outright, putting an end to all other AmigaOS development.  Then you'd get something that felt vuagely like AmigaOS but with Mario as the mouse pointer...

Secondly, Amiga-Inc, et al have no interest in porting to a piece of hardware they receive no revenue from.  Even if they were interested, I doubt they'd know how to proceed.

Lastly, the Amiga userbase would throw a fit! (just look at the hostility of this thread) Let alone buy into it.  The last thing the dwindling Amiga market needs now is further segmentation.

My advice for people not willing to pay the exorbitant fee for A1/OS4, is to leave the Amiga its fate, and start looking at modern alternatives like, OSX, AROS, Knoppix(Linux) ect.  
The truth is, most modern OS's have caught up with, if not far surpassed the AmigaOS experience.

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You guys must have a lot of free time, all those quotes & double quotes...  Phew!

It makes me wonder how much clout Bungee, (being M$'s golden child) have over the Xbox2/360 development devision? (considering they originally come from an Apple background)...

Irony?  Or is IBM multicore PPC tech just fast, versatile and cheap?

Anyone remember when Atari LYNX games were developed using Amigas?

I just like games, regardless of the hardware.

[coldfish]

I like my Xbox, its given me many good hours of gaming fun, I also like my PC, MAMEbox, Gamecube, Dreamcast, GBAsp et al for the same reason.

AND, I liked my Amigas too, back when they provided my main source of computer entertainment.  I'm happy they've gone on to someone who can enjoy them afresh, rather than getting lost in storage.

ottomobiehl:

By the way coldfish, I love your avatar. Father Ted, in my opinion, is a brilliant show. To bad Dermot Morgan had to pass away.

Thanks, you've got to love Father Jack, he's a nasty, grimey old bast'!
It was weird when Dermot died, I hope God forgave all the Catholic jokes...

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by lou_dias:  

What I feel (yes my own opinion) is that they didn't look far enough back in history..ie...Dreamcast. SEGA was first to market and their technology was perceived as inferior to what was coming next (even though it was right on par with the PS2). Rumor has it that X360 is sticking with the 4.7GB DVD format and will not include a harddrive (although one can be added on, developers are being encouraged not to count on it or make it mandatory). So the PS3 with have a media advantage and power advantage since Sony is using Blue-Ray and Cell.

I dont think M$ are presently in the same position Sega were in when they released the Dreamcast.  
Sega werent playing from a position of strength, how long had Saturn been out of production, years wasnt it?  How was their reputation going after the failure of Sega-CD, 32X and Saturn?  
Xbox2/360 will release right on the back of the increasingly popular Xbox platform.

Also, Sega lacked the financial backup to recover from poor DC sales and perhaps revive it with a massive marketing push.  
M$'s Xbox didnt have the best start either, but after that initial (large) price reduction and strong marketing, they have managed to grow marketshare and more importantly, mindshare in preperation for Xbox-360's release.  

Among developers, there's a lot less negativity and confusion surrounding Xbox-360, compared to this stage in Xbox's development.

As for Xbo-360 lacking Blue-Ray tech, I'm not fussed, I dont really want to have to buy my entire DVD collection all over again.  Besides, it still remains to be seen how well Blue-Ray will do against HD-DVD in the mainstream video market, cough* -betamax- cough!

As far a cell goes, apart from plenty of hype, we're yet to see anything worth crowing about.  Those 8 SPE's with their rather modest 7M logic transistors each, dont quite inspire me to do hand-stands just yet.  

At the moment I pity Sony's cell/PS3 SDK programming team.

Cell:

http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell0.html
 
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT021005084318

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/cell-1.ars

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/cell-2.ars

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Japanese PSP Sales Almost Double DS (News)

http://www.gamepro.com.au/index.php/id;702104525;fp;16;fpid;0

lou:
"But supposedly, X360 is using it's current DVD format, not HD-DVD."

Judging by all the  "...HD Era" talk in J Allard's keynote speech at GDC, you may be surprised yet?

Major studios back HD DVD

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/29/hollywood_hd_dvd/

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seer wrote:

How anyone can hate a company is really beyond me.

I think exposes a lack of deeper thinking. ;0)

by lou_dias:

With business practices like this:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=1210

it's easy.

Maybe you should think about the society that breeds individuals that partake in these sorts of business practices???

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lou_dias wrote:

Like I've stated before, Nintendo has stuck with ATI and ATI will take care of Nintendo

Actually, the Gamecubes GPU was designed by ArtX (who were later aquired by ATi)!  Nintendo did have a strong relationship with ArtX, going back to the N64 days.

http://www.answers.com/topic/project-revolution

So there's really no loyalty toward ATi on Nintendo's behalf and probably less in the other direction.  I'm sure ATi are more than happy to have the business of two of the three console players though.

[coldfish]

Without a credible source, your quote sounds an aweful lot like the same old fanboy hyperbole and heresay.

-reference?

[coldfish]

Supposedly the controller will be able to heat up...

LOL! a -People vs Nintendo- class action in the making...    :-D

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by lou_dias

I don't expect AOS on GC/Rev/360/PS3/XBOX/DC to ever replace my PC, but it sure would be cool and fun to try out.

I ask, why limit yourself to AOS?  I'd prefer to see something a little more innovative.  

I've no doubt Nintendo could produce their own OS, that would be more fun to use than some obscure desktop-derived OS.

I see the next gen' consoles as a testing ground for new (and FUN!) ways to interact with computer tech.  I for one would be quite dissapointed if they presented us with boring, more-of-the-same-2D-windows-like interfaces.

[coldfish]

by lou_dias

That's why it's going to be all about the Revolution controller. You'll be able to drag "icons" in 3d space...

Doesnt this sound a bit beyond the scope of AOS?

[coldfish]

All the money you saved from -not- buying an A1 you can put towards gas!

 :-P

Dang!

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by koaftder:

All i'm saying is that nobody cares... This is the kind of thread that after reading, it's quite possible for one to know less than they did before they started reading it.

Yeah, but the pocket-protector rattling is almost entertaining.

Keep it up fellas!

[coldfish]

This thread is a farce.