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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« on: February 23, 2003, 03:08:54 AM »
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In the first BIG opportunity to our Company, we are required to develop using a PPC and MorphOS, a terrestrial Digital Television receiver with interactive/computing and smart card read and write functions (to be referred to as the DTV STB). This product will not require the use of the Articia and we will be producing significant quantities in the development phase and a special version of MorphOS (without hurting the complete version). If we deliver the DTV STB in a satisfactory manner we will be eligible to receive orders for over one million units. It is a once-in-a-lifetime professional opportunity for all of us. We need to make the most of it.



Hmmm... Anyone remember BeOS, and BeIA (we are not going to forget the desktop market)?  If this thing isn't going to use the Articia (which I've been mispelling and mispronouncing all along) then what will it use?  Sounds really scaled down and really limited, but good luck with it, what ever it is.  Does it also dice and slice and include something more for .... wait..... only >>>>$19.95 <<<<<

Okay, sorry folks.  BBRV's pep talks do come off sounding overly enthusiastic and sometimes downright silly.  But he does have the ability to gain attention to a product.  I bet he could sell a bowl of white rice and make it sound like the most delicious bowl of curry rice ever cooked.  I really wish we had him pushing OS4 like that.

Good luck with the new products.  When will we know more about the Pegasos II and the new northbridge?
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2003, 04:23:23 AM »
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Um... Be changed directions, hence why they had so many problems.



Ummm.  Yep.  That's my point.  But at first they claimed they were not leaving the desktop behind.  THEN they changed directions.  Just like Genesi have changed directions with the Pegasos.  Now it will not be what they claimed to all of those who purchased.  But you say, "yeah but they can upgrade for $200"  So what?  That was never the original plan, hence they have changed plans.  What's to say they will not do it agian before September?
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2003, 01:28:57 PM »
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You know what is a scary thought, that maybe Eyetech may change plans too? I am not sure what to make of this Aritica chip??? I hope that Eyetech has a better working relationhip with Mai Logic. I hope that they were/are able to reslove any problems with the Aritica chip. If not then maybe they will need to change thier plans??


I don't think this is as likely.  The Terron boards are being marketed by Terrasoft for the Linux market, and Eyetech for the Linux and Amiga market.  The Teron boards and the Articia have recieved IBM's "Ready for IBM Technology" approval.  See link below.

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/wired/alliances/mai_logic.html

So I don't think the Teron series will be disappearing anytime soon.  I do hope, however, that they are already working on the next revision using the newer Articia P bringing AGP4x and DDR among other things.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2003, 01:50:21 PM »
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Yes we all know. Why are you always repeating? Is
this the only advantage these boards have?


Well, I guess for the same reason you people keep shouting "The Articia is so buggy" and "It doesn't perform right".  It seems as though the Pegasos is the main system that is having problems. That was not a post to you but a reply to Warrent's post.  Skip it if you don't want to read it!
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2003, 02:06:53 PM »
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Obviously not, otherwise other desktop/server
systems using the chipset would be out in numbers.


Yeah, well, at least they are not crying because the whole project has to be scrapped and taken back to square one.  Of course, I'm not laughing at Pegasos either.  I think it's good they are moving on.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2003, 12:19:56 PM »
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Read this and consider how much this approval means:
http://www.vgr.com/mediator/Pressrelease9.txt


You are not comparing the same thing.  That only outlines the use of the trademark "PPC Logo".  It has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2003, 12:40:41 PM »
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To repeat NO EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY THE ACCURACY OF THE INFORMATION. Mai submitted a spec sheet on the Articia, and it fit the definition by the IBM rulebook.

So please, don't show this IBM "Ceritifcation" again, as it's not a ceritification at all, but just a product listing in a catelog stating that according to the whitepapers, it will work with a singular specific IBM microprocessor, the 750FX. In short, it says to the effect of buyer beware.


LOL.... You would love for us to forget about everything except Pegasos wouldn't you.  Funny to see MOS supporters squirm so much.  Yeah I know, everyone puts disclaimers in their stuff.  It's called a general purpose weasle clause.  Everyone has them to avoid possible lawsuits.  But let me just quote Lisa Su of IBM again:

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"MAI Logic has successfully developed optimized supporting devices and reference designs for PowerPCTM microprocessor application platforms which have passed a rigorous PowerPCTM compatibility validation testing process by IBM Microelectronics labs,"said Lisa Su, Director of PowerPCTM and emerging products, IBM Microelectronics.


Now, READ THE PART WHERE IT SAYS "which have passed a rigorous PowerPCTM compatibility validation testing process by IBM Microelectronics labs"  WILL YOU NOW CALL HER A LIAR?

She says CLEARLY that it it has passed RIGOROUS tests BY IBM LABS!  I don't know how much clearer I could make that.  If you don't beleive it then that's your choice, but don't tell me about how you don't want to hear about this certification again.  I personally don't want to hear about MOS again, but I  don't have much choice do I?
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2003, 12:57:29 PM »
And for anyone who wants to read about the "Ready for IBM Technology" overview it's here:

http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/microelectronics/rfit.html


And this is the Portfolio of the companies in alliance with IBM, which includes Mai Logic:

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/wired/alliances/rfit.html
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