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Re: Teron PX ATX PowerPC motherboard
« on: February 06, 2003, 01:07:59 PM »
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The Teron board is a full ATX, Pegasos is a smaller Micro-ATX.


Works great if you are a midget with tiny hands to work in that tight cramped up case with hardly any way to get air flow through it.

Give me a full size board and case anyday.

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Teron doesn't include firewire while the Pegasos does


Oh yeah, last time I needed firewire was .... hmmmm.............. never!  Don't need it, as most people will not.  If they do, just pop in a PCI card.  They are not that expensive for heavens sake.

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The teron uses the VIA 686B southbridge, which has known DMA bugs that are well documented. The Pegasos uses the 8231 southbridge, which is a more modern chipset. In fact, VIA is listing the VT6x series of southbridges as end-of-life when I checked their website. While the VT82xx series has new versions still arriving.


Well this has been debated to death, and I believe it has been pointed out in other threads that the 8231 has some issues of it's own....So let's not call the kettle black yet.

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then there's the quality of construction. The Teron board is using every approach to lower the cost of the design. The Pegasos uses higher-quality connectors in almost all cases. Means the Pegasos will last longer in many situations.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   Nice one....nobody can build a quality product but DCE.  Thanks for the laugh.

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Also, the positioning of the components on the motherboard can be an issue. The Teron board has plug interfaces at the end of where the PCI slots run, which means if you get a long card, you can't use the hard drives, for example. (before you get into it, I have a pro-studio AGP card here that is from the backplane to the front-brackets in my case, so it does actually occur)


Come on now.  Is it the use of a long PCI card or AGP card that would be a problem.  Everyone with a full length PCI or AGP card raise your hand?  Anyway, it's not like the IDE connectors stick up higher than the actual PCI connector (which cards don't usually go below anyay).  Ok, move the PCI card to another slot then... how about that.  

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Then there's the AGP/PCI-66Mhz slot issue. If you run a 66Mhz card in that slot, AGP turns into a 33Mhz PCI slot. Oops!


Already addressed by someone above.

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Of course, the Teron does support that funky new winmodem port.....


Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.. Wrong!  You are not keeping up with the news Downix.  No AMR slot on the PX boards.  (which btw are not only for modems)
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Re: Teron PX ATX PowerPC motherboard
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2003, 12:16:37 PM »
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I didn't bring up the issues, I brought up lifespan. The chip series that the 686B was a part of is end-of-life. This means eventually they'll run out of parts, and a whole new board will have to be engineered.


Well, you did go on about the DMA problems with the 686, so..... Ok, you get my point.  And so far as being near the products eol, I would hope that new boards will be in design stage that are using the next generation of Artica P and new generation of processors (hopefully the 970) although that may require even another generation of Artica due to bus speeds etc.  I'll not disagree about the eol.  It is pushing it, but if new boards are designed on next gen specs, the XE will phase out anyway.

 
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You are assuming that there will be a lot of HEAT coming off this motherboard, similar to what one would expect from a PC with AMD processor. However, G3 CPUs run a lot cooler, you don't need a giant heat sink and possibly could get away without a fan in some cases.


No, I have a 450MHz G3 in my Mac, so I know how cool/warm they are.  But no matter.  If you stick it into a small cramped space with bad airflow, it will still run warmer than otherwise.  But the main thing is I just hate small micro ATX boards....and that goes for the PC ones too.

And for all of these:

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There is an AMR slot in MAI docs:
http://www.mai.com/products/BRV852R2.0.pdf
 


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I went by the picture of the CX board, as that's the only picture on the website. I assumed that the slot positionings would remain the same. If there is a change in the availibility of the AMR, that is my mistake made on lack of data to the contrary.


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There are some other segments of the Pegasos as well, such as built-in sound, that lend it to being a nicer board.



See new revison of AmigaOne XE here.

Note that there is no AMR slot, the back panel is standard ATX layout making it fit any case, no special backplate required, AND it has built on sound.

It actually is a nice board design now.  Much better than the earlier SE and the previous Mai design.

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Re: Teron PX ATX PowerPC motherboard
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2003, 05:20:33 PM »
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m3x wrote:
Just added a few more photos, including one of a G4-XE mobo and one of a dual 7410 cpu module HERE.
All photos courtesy of Eyetech  :-)

Ciao

Massimiliano Tretene, S o f t 3


WOOT!  

Thanks for the new pics.

Hey, that board had a rom in the socket near the PCI slots.... is that the OS4 license rom??
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