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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« on: June 06, 2002, 05:50:56 PM »
I too am amazed at the comments made  so far on this news item.

Comparing a petition with anarchy ??!! What ??

You are making yourself sound ridiculous and ignorant.

It is only a petition for Earths sake!

Nobody is forcing you to sign it.

It only gives people a chance to show they disagree with something.

And before you start accusing me of being one sided  let me tell you that NO  I did NOT sign it because I dont hold the same views.

But I do not have a problem with other people having different views especially when they are portraying them in a constructive way.

Now stop being narrow minded and let them have their say ?

What are you afraid of ? If they do get their way , how will it affect you? have you even tried thinking that far ?

Now if you don't have anything constructive to say and the petition doesn't interest you then why not ignore it? :evil:  :-?  :-?
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2002, 06:00:02 PM »
I meant I was surprised by only SOME of the comments.

Not all of them.

I tried editing my original post but it didn't let me.

A bug or new policy ? ?
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2002, 07:38:53 PM »
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A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship


To deconstruct your post as yo would like me to:

So you think petions = Facism (Very broad minded and intelligent of you)

To put you straight dear fellow I will use your source of definitions i.e. Dictionary.com

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pe·ti·tion   Pronunciation Key  (p-tshn)
n.  A solemn supplication or request to a superior authority; an entreaty.
A formal written document requesting a right or benefit from a person or group in authority.
Law.
A formal written application requesting a court for a specific judicial action: a petition for appeal.
The judicial action asked for in any such request.
Something requested or entreated.


So how does making a request to a higher authority equal fascism?

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I just see this petition as a petty minded attempt to undermine anything constructive in the Amiga Community, suddenly a bunch of people suddenly think they know all about computers and markets, and whats best for Amiga.


Thats you opinion right ? Nothing constructive about that. you have failed to follow up with any sound reasoning.

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As for the counter petition I really couldn't be bothered to start one, I don't feel strongly enough about this,

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The petitioning system on that site isn't rigourous enough, anyone can go on there and spoof signings, create imaginary people


So if you felt strongly enough about it and the petition system was rigorous you would then start a petition? something you call facsism.  So does that make you a Fascist or a hypocrite?

remember I am not defending the content of the petition , because I dont agree with it. What I stand by are my comments that defend the right for someone to set up petitions.

You are the one thinking like a dictator and you are the one that is dissillusioned with the whole world.

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I'm not worried they will get their way what happens in the Amiga market will have no real effect on me, if it all breaks down I will be better off finacially and I'll be able to sit back and smuggly say i told you so.

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What annoys me is the way these things work. The way society works, the way the Amiga Community works, the way the whole world works.


Some people would say you sound like a social misfit and would reccommend getting some help.

I will only say analyze your comments so far and try to see how they make you look from a third persons perspective. Then reflect and try to improve your understanding of the way the world works.

Good day to you sir. :roll:
 

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Re: AmigaOS + POP/PPC petition official web site
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2002, 01:50:54 AM »
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What annoys me is the way these things work. The way society works, the way the Amiga Community works, the way the whole world works.


It annoys you the way the whole world works? Sorry I can't help you there.

That statement portrays you as disillusioned whether you are or not is another matter. its how your comment will be interpreted, thats all.

I was still writing my answer when you posted a clarification so its a classic case of 'crossed in the post' :-D

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I don't feel strongly about the subject of Amiga being on "Open Hardware" or not to start a petition


This is the part I find hypocritical sir.

Do you know what the opposite of this statement would be?

It means that IF you DID feel strongly about the subject you would start a petition.

if you wouldn't then you are not hypocritical but are defending your arguments with the wrong reasoning.

I did not personally insult you by calling you a fascist, I don't believe you are!
I said that if you did start a petition that would be the opposite of wht you said earlier (thus hypocritical) and if you thought petitions are fascism then according to your own definition you would be one.

Glad you cleared that up though!
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I also do not think you are a social misfit but if you keep talking the way you do about how the way that the whole world works is annoying to you, then people might think you are trying to be exclusive and that you think of yourself better tham them.

Again, its how your statements look. Not how I think you are.

You really should be able to take criticism of your views just as you expect others to take your criticism.

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Do you think we should do that if someone doesn't agree with you, if someone has beliefs that just don't gell, we should get them some help, brain wash them to our way of thinking because its better.


LOL did i really say that ??? please cut & paste a quote for me purleeeese! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

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A petition isn't inherantly good or bad, but it can be used in a way which defeats the point of petitions

Exactly!!  Thank you !

Ok now lets see if you can constructively show me how this particular petition is being used in a bad way, so I can finally understand you point of view.That is all I ask.
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Too many people like to take things and twist them to their own ends, for instance imagine someone taking a post, misquoting it, or selectively quoting it to provide a skewed view of what was said

I feel I have been subjected to the same.
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It happens all the time on the internet, and the only thing stopping it is honesty.

Amen!

Now sir can we please declare peace and stop annoying other readers with our long arguments. I feel we both are misusing the quoting system and should stop
No hard feelings :-D