fusion forty problems

[CLS2086]

Hi,
now it's my turn !
I receive a card sold as "non working" FF40 rev 2.0 with no quartz and no CPU, but with PnG roms he told me.
So I received a 040RC/40 CPU and I picked up a 44.4 Mhz quartz for a VGA card... so I well fit, and should work.
I cleaned up all chips except the big FPGA (i have no extractor for such a monster).
I also noted that on the cpu socket there were a kind of glue that block contact...
I fighted for 1 hour at least to clean the support, yesterday night. Checked it well with multimeter it's ok.

I picked up 4 rams sticks from an another GVP serie2 hc+8 - 4x 1mb 3 chips (i don't know if there are good...).

Now i take my beasty 2000 ECS 6.2 (kick 3.1/VT2000/a2630/gvp hc+8/Gvp Spectrum/buddha ide/A2386/...)

So at first boot nothing happend... the GVP scsi did not boot at all.
Stop the machine, switch to 68k mode, ok the machine boot again, all my cards are present on the early, but made an error loading C:MakeDir just after setpatch.
So I reboot with no Startup, and seen there were no fastmem...

I took it off, replaced it, take off the GVP scsi
I restart and press the mouse button. This time I got the FF40 boot screen  :-D
But options are grey, only the choice of NO-fastkick.
When i click on it, it reboot....  :roll:
I got to the purple screen, put a wb3.1 install disk, it booted. No visible FastMem present...
I typed setpatch to check the 040 presence, ok it found it.
Then put a GVP install disk to view the "check-up" and ...
no Z2 board found at all  :-o !!!!

I rebooted an got a guru with code 8000000006 or something like that, and no way to get back to the FF40 boot menu except flash on screen... I rebooted one more time, go to the early and saw no Z2 cards in expension  :crazy:

I put 4 more others 1mb ram (8 chips), and switched my GVP HC+8 from 0 to 2 mb, and then started.
The FF40 menu is still the same, but in the early, i got the GVP and it's dual component present ( scsi + ram) but not the other cards !!!, whatever it booted well my Wb3.1 on scsi, but still having 2 mb of fast (GVP). Showconfig told me that i have a 040 and GVP board that's all...

I've retried with Install3.1 disk to be sure, but it's still the same thing.

I have just downloaded the DMS on amiga resource CX, but i don't think that it will resolve my problems...

Any good advice
 :-?

[CLS2086]

So,
I took off the suspect 4 memory stick, took of the FPGA and clean it and its support.
But nothing change..
I'm gonna try the DMS...

[CLS2086]

That's better. :-D

I must add the utility called SetFF before setpatch:
SetFF FPU VBR Addmem

The Fastkick option is refused with kick 3.1 (I have not yet tested the latest version of SetFF).

But this time the right amount of ram appears.

I had put the other 4 mb in, it is ok I have well 8 MB.
But again at the reboot, there is nothing to do, I always got the 8000006 guru...
With a click left and it leaves, but no way to enter in early or in the FF40 menu...

@Pyree : what will you do of your card ?
That did not solve my Z2 problem... no buddha, Spectrum, Bridgeboard....
 
Under AIBB, the memory map is seen in 2 pieces independent with a priority of "+30".
The copyback works very well anyway.

But I wonder if I have the latest ROM with the FF40 ...

I will also have to solve the 040 cooling problem (which for now runs only at 22 Mhz and 40 soon if the rest can follow).
Bcause there is an hdd sca on the GVP and an sca/scsi adapter which is just at 4mm of the cpu. ..
and the CPU is already very damn hot at half speed (the hdd close ot it also )!

[CLS2086]

So progress again :

The problem of invisible ZII cards come from my GVP Spectrum EGS rev1.3 / 2mb. I took it off ET VOILA !!!
All the other cards appears and works (budha and 2386).

So I decided to put newest FF software, and add them in my StartupSeq :
SetFF >NIL: PRESET           (which set MMU/FPU/VBR/Copyback on and do a kind of Blitzkick's trick with kickstart )  
MoveMH             (which put chipram TSR in Fast)

FFCache in the WBStartup.
and SetPatch v44.38 from OS3.5CD
I tried some installed software succesfully, it was ok.
AIBB now tell me that i have only 1 block of 7.4mb of FastRam on the card not 8 mb (0.6mb maybe due to kick trick and chipmem move).

But ShowConfig makes hang and reboot !!
Before I use "PRESET" (so no MMU and no kick trick), it worked ... Does it mean that my MMU is half dead or a conflict anywhere (68040 libs v36.2) ??


Then I tried, the benchmark P96Speed on 3.5CD, on NTSC mode 640x200-16 colours.
2 Tests makes crash the programm with an error 8000000002, it's :
WritePixelArray8() and WritePixelLine8().


I also notified a very annoying points :
- For 100% successfull boot, press right mouse button while powering it on.
- When you turn off the machine power and want to restart it quickly, you'll need that it get colder nor i won't boot at all...

I put a very tiny Radiator with intergred fan which was sold to me by DCE years ago. I just can fit it on half the CPU du to the SCA adapter on the GVP scsi... I can't put a bigger one.  I used silver thermal paste and the radiator, whatever it's half fitted, works very well and got hot very quickly.

If you have idea, let me know !!

[CLS2086]

Hi,
I still have some strange behavior while booting...
Like the FPU option that makes hang (8000006) sometimes, and sometimes i don't turn on the MMU,
I will turn off the GVP ram, but it don't use it yet.
@TjLaser : yes I know well that, but how to check it ? There seems to have rom v3.1/3.2/3.4 of PnG roms....

I tried also on OS3.5, at first i crashed with the FPU option, then i restarted on Wb3.1 and rebooted on OS3.5 and it passed !!
I noticed that with OS3.5, SetFF 1.79 now told me well that he fastkicking the 3.1 rom. I didn't display that with WB3.1

[CLS2086]

Tests of the day:
Libs v44 of P5 for 68040 -> it loses the ram and MMU
It is better to save SetFF after SetPatch for the FastKick goes well, but also to prevent 800000002 when FPU turn to on.

Tonight, I put 2 ISA 16 bits port on the mobo, turn off the ram on the GVP, put a CV64/3D to replace the Spectrum, and a VLab Y/c ..

Again, except the GVP no card viewed ...
I will check it tomorrow ...  :-?

[CLS2086]

Hi,
strange it didn't like my CV64/3D too. I take it, and all went right

How can i check that i have already the good PNG rom v3.4 and not PNG 3.1/3.2 ??

Do the other FF40 owner got such problems with RTG cards ??

[CLS2086]

Hi,
I put new PNG rom v3.4, and it's better ! Thanks Tj.
This time, the card boot well. All the options (fastkick, FPU, mmu, ram...) are already done at the original boot, no more reboot and it's seems faster.

But i still can't use any one of my RTG cards !!
If i plug one of them, i can only see the GVP SCSI card. And when i took of the GVP, i see nothing in Z2...

Do the other FF40 owner got such problems with RTG cards ??
 :-?

[CLS2086]

Hi,
I tried both solution ram on GVP scsi on (2mb) and off.
It doesn't change a lot the problem. When the FF40 is off, all is well detected...

I read again the FAQ :
http://www.lundblad.com/mattias/F40-FAQ.txt
and found :

- Piccolo/Spectrum, may need a PAL upgrade

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But how to get it ??
I wrote to some people in the FAQ, but no luck, there are no longer working.
So I wrote to Matthias Lundblad. I'll try to keep you informed.
But we may need to find some with the good "PAL" to duplicate it... If you have let me know.  :-)

[CLS2086]

I received some faster quartz, Oxyron patcher, and 32 mb  :-)
I tried to put 60 and 66 Mhz, but the card reacted strangely, so i put a 55 Mhz and the card reworked correctly but still don't support my RTG cards...

I read some people got 33/35/40 Mhz models, but where is the trick ? I have a true 040/40...  :-o
There may be an another upgrade to do...