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Re: Rats leaving a sinking ship, or something else?
« on: September 30, 2003, 06:10:51 AM »
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One problem with current Pegy/MorphOS is the dual control of OS and HW under one entity (i.e. Genesi). It’s IBM all over again (i.e. IBM PS/2 & OS/2 (conflict of interest)). I don’t see MorphOS running on “AmigasOne” boards.

I realize that this is really Ben's arguement, but lets be honest about it.  Commodore owned everything and that worked better then anyone since.   In addition, MorphOS does run on the Teron boards (which are AmigaOnes without the custom ROM) and in fact posts in the last few weeks have pointed to it running on actual AmigaOne boards, whether it actually does or not isnt a real issue, its not a significant effort if it doesnt at this point.   In addition, MorphOS runs on Macs, and other PPC cards, there are alot more systems that MorphOS runs on then there will ever be AmigaOnes.  

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The ideal situation (in traditional commercial sense) is an independent OS provider with cloned HW vendors (i.e. the Microsoft/X86 PC structure). This classic structure enables the 8086/286/386 PC platform to compete with superior hardware (non-unified 68K PC and RISC PC boxes) at that time.

You are missing a whole lot of steps here, however understand, MorphOS runs on multiple PPC boards,  Amiga OS 4.0 will only run on AmigaOne.   The  "closed" system is currenly Amiga OS 4.0, not MorphOS.  The one that wont run on the others board, is 4.0, the one that has only has one modern board it runs on is OS 4.0.    
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Re: Rats leaving a sinking ship, or something else?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2003, 07:29:02 AM »
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Ummm, correct me if I'm wrong, but MorphOS is not available independent of the Pegasos hardware. You can't use MorphOS without buying a Pegasos any more than you'll be able to use AmigaOS4 without buying an AmigaOne (the CSPPC/BlizzardPPC cards don't count).  The fact that the impediment is not hardcoded into the firmware is rendered meaningless by current marketing policy.


Bill Buck has talked often about selling a MorphOS CD for the Mac, thats a pretty huge market, and lots of available hardware.   This week, Ben once again basically blew the thought of running Amiga on Macs out of the water, despite the fact you can buy a more powerful Mac for the large premium we have on AmigaOne branded Teron boards.   The entire structure of how Amiga OS is being done has driven it away from other hardware choices, and thats unfortunate for several reasons.    Whether MorphOS is available to purchase for other hardware solutions today, isnt the issue in my opinion, the fact that Genesi is willing to discuss and work towards other solutions is a big step in the right direction, one that the Amiga Inc (Fleecy) plan doesnt support.  
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