Problem with the video slot? (Solved)

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Some things to try.  

1) do you have a non-NTSC monitor selected?   If so at least some of them wont allow the Toaster to sync.    

2) Unplug anything but a moniter from the 23 pin video plug, unplug anything from the Parallel port or the audio ports, be sure you have a sync strainer if you are using a multi sync moniter

3) Autohue the toaster is not a bad idea either.  

4) Give me a better idea what happens when the toaster boots, and also tell me what version of software.  Do you get a toaster video output but the amiga output is bad, vice versa, both of them bad?
     -Toastin Tigger

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rkauer wrote:
Two little suggerstions:

- Swap the PSU for a brand new one (they come to be faulty);

Thats a good idea, but I'd try mine first because its free.

- If you have enough skills, change the caps in the Toaster board. Change ALL electrolitics caps, they become faulty after some little time (~10 years):-D....

Thats a TERRIBLE IDEA, please do not do this.  First of all since it happens on both toasters, its most likely the computer or a setting, second of all, since Newtek will fix a broken toaster for almost nothing, making there job harder by soldering on it is silly.  If the toaster is broken, Newtek will fix it, the issue is that since it works the same with 2 toasters, its likely not the toasters problem, so we need to help him figure out whats wrong with his computer or setup.
      -Toastin Tigger

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Ross1 wrote:

The Amiga boots up with no issues and the display on the RGB out is solid and all icons are present. I see a distorted black video image on the program monitor and when i boot up the toaster software the program screen goes all nuts but the switcher screen does load but no images (bars and toaster logo load up into the frame buffers. I'm running Version 4.3 with the millennium package installed. I have even done a reinstall of the software.

Ok, this is on a A4000 so we have possible short of the toaster to the memory, though that shouldnt be the issue.  Power supply is probably still the likeliest problem.  You have verified that NTSC is your monitor selected correct (or 1084) because that will definitely cause the issue you are talking about.  Check preview out as well as program out, to be sure both have the problem, also does the toaster software change from one input to another?    Run a camera is you have one live into input 1 and see if you can see it.   Try an effect to see if that appears on your program screen or just on the amiga screen.  Do verify that the A4000 batter if its still present isnt leaking onto the motherboard.   You can get the toaster fixed for the price of shipping these days if its broken, but with two of them showing the same symptoms, I just dont think thats likely.    
   -Tig

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@ Tig, When you say a short of the Toaster to the memory are you saying the Amigas system ram? should I place some sort of plastic sheet between the back of the toaster card and the ram?

In the past I have done that on some systems, some memory is taller then others and theoretically that could be the problem.

The system battery was removed several years ago and in its place I have a rechargeable Ni metal hydrate coin battery. Could this be a problem?

No, that should be no problem.

The video that I have connected directly to the vidoe input 1 is barely visible due to the garbled image (like its out of sync) it shows and sometimes not at all on both the program and preview but yes I can switch between inputs as there is a change on the program and preview monitors when I do a cut and transitions do show on the amiga monitor but because the toaster is out of sync they do not show up properly on the program out.

We were doing that to be sure that the toaster software was booting correctly, etc, since its switching video (out of sync video, but video none the less, and doing effects, 4.3 is up and running correctly.    

When the Toaster was working I would get a nice clean black screen on the program monitor when I first boot it up or after a soft reset it would pass through the video on input 1 nice and clean. but now its a very fussy black screen or the distorted and usually a black and white image with a tinge of green showing on program. ALso when I exit out of the Toaster software the workbench screen is suposed to show on the program output but instead I get a very distorted jittery immage of the workbench or just black fuzz.

I hate to suggest this, but since you have a second 4000, why dont you plug its power supply into the other board, and verify whether its the power supply.  The other thing you might want to check is the riser card, verify that it doesnt make a difference which one is in the system.  If you 4000 has socketed parts (at least one of the ones I owned did, you might want to be sure they are seated well.   I've probably got an A4000 desktop power supply around the house I could be talked out of for a few bucks if you want to go back to that as well.
     -Tig
     

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I wrote Audio Blackbox, Promix Tools, RenderFX, and several other toaster packages including a big chunk of Millenium. SO as one of the leading 3rd party guys for Newtek, I know quite a bit about the Toaster and Flyer.
     -Tig
 

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It is possible to use a non A4000 power supply, is your adapted correctly, I have no idea, I might be able to get to the microtronix A4000 tower and look at its power supply and see if I can give you some more info.  I guess I need to look at the A4000 power connector and see what could be causing issues for the toaster and yet allow the computer to run fine.
    -Tig