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Re: Open Pegasos fail to deliver!
« on: January 10, 2006, 06:04:22 PM »
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billt wrote:
What would RoHS have to do with it? I haven't even heard of WEEE, but for the moment I'll assume it's comparable to RoHS.



Actually I think it probably does have something to do with it, though not in the way they think,  I'm guessing that after the huge (and silly) RoHS comments on AWN, by people that a week before that didnt even know what it was, that Bill & company figured out what the changes that were necessary (if any) and they are being incorporated and will be released in that matter.  Then the RoHS champions who didnt know what it was two weeks ago won't have that complaint and they will have to shift to another silly reason to wait months for new hardware rather then go with currently shipping hardware that is faster and cheaper.
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PS Bill, WEEE stands for Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment, its a measure to promote reuse and recycling of electronics, this is about Amiga equipment, so since Ebay is the dump site where all Amigas go when they leave there original owners, it doesnt really apply to us  :).
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Re: Open Pegasos fail to deliver!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2006, 09:50:23 PM »
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itix wrote:
I still dont understand what is so special in Open Pegasos. I got an invitation mail to power.org when I can barely design a blinking led system with pspice.


Its a fully functional Pegasos II board, schematics and all thats available to be manufactured by anyone for free.  Instead of designing a new piece of hardware, prototyping it, etc, and trying to get it right, here is a fully functional board ready to be ordered.  Its a neat idea, it should be a new home for OS4.
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Re: Open Pegasos fail to deliver!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2006, 11:38:32 PM »
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...I think many people in the PC world could learn a thing or two from Eyetech's hardware engineers.


Congrats, thats the funniest thing on this site in a long damn time.  
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Re: Open Pegasos fail to deliver!
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2006, 04:21:32 AM »
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You may joke, but it's still true. For those that only wish to mock the AmigaOne's issues, there's still a lesson to be learned there.

For others perhaps, not me.  Us, Rockwell, the Barbie folks etc, all were saying the part had problems.  Also understand that basically the people in question here don't exist, there are no Eyetech hardware engineers, its like saying I should learn something from the Easter Bunny, he doesnt exist so he can't teach me anything.

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if you think all this was the wrong thing to do, then encourage other designers to be more open-minded to design changes, potentially large and involved ones, if comparable issues affect their design process.

Every other vendor using the part abandoned it.  I'm not sure why you think anyone else has to learn anything here.  YDL folks gave up on the board, Rockwell, etc all gave up on the parts, what this situation shows us is how dumb Alan and the Belgian Midget are to continue forward with piss poor hardware digging there situation in deeper and deeper until we are where we are now, no hardware to run the OS that was super portable according to those trying to sell it.  

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If you can't learn from the situation you laugh about, then you are even sillier than you accuse Eyetech of.

What should I learn Bill??   We found the DMA issue in Articia before either of the gang was talking about it, it goes back to good engineering practices, translated to Hyperionese, that would be something like "shut the belgian midget up".   We abandoned the part, and went on, as did others.   The only company that stuck with Articia was Eyetech, because they were using MAI's boards and basically had no other option.  They had already failed to design there own board, then the board they picked had problems (and now can't be made anymore), and they refuse to do business with either of the companies actually producing boards in any kind of quantity.  
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