potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

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lou_dias wrote:

I find it interesting that none of you are OS4 developers but Hyperion says they can run it on a cell phone but you people say it can't run on the Gamecube.

Next some troll will tell me that cellphones have had 256MB of memory for years...

Actually, some do.  But, that's beside the point.

The experience of running "OS4" on the mobile phone wouldn't be the same as running it on a full fledged computer.  Just like your running of Internet Explorer on a PDA isn't the same as running it on a real PC.  

You're comparing apples to oranges here.  If you want to run a PDA/smart phone type OS and apps on your GCN then the 24MB just might work (although, it would be even more limited than current PDAs/smart phones).  But, if you want to run the real desktop OS then you'll be very short of memeory.

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Bottom line is...  Talk to Hyperion.  They're the only ones that can say yes or no.  

I believe the reason you keep this thread going is you already know the answer.

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lou_dias wrote:

No they didn't.  The Gameboy Color was b/c with Gameboy as has been every Gameboy product since.

Not true anymore.  The micro only supports GBA games.  :-(  (And, if you re-read what Wacoon said, you'll see he said the portables were backward compatible)

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lou_dias wrote:

Must you add this dribble.

Why, is it off topic? :lol:  What was the topic again?  Oh yeah, "If you can put linux on it, you can put AOS 4.".

Once again, a quick email or phonecall to Hyperion and/or Amiga, inc. could have settled this months ago.  Tell you what, I'll help you out.  Just cut and paste this into your favorite email application and send it out.

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Dear Hyperion,

I am the proud owner of a PPC super-computer, better known as the Nintendo Gamecube.  Since it already runs Linux PPC, it can surely run Amiga OS4.  Please port Amiga OS4 to it and I'll be your best friend.

PS. NINTENDO RULEZ!!!

Signed,
Lou Diaz
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[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

Let me remind people that VERY EARLY on in this thread, I stated that any development work done getting AOS4 onto the GC could carry over to Revolution. :rtfm:

Wow!  So all the OS4 development work that hasn't been done on Gamecube could carry over and not be done on the Revolution either!  

That's quite a prediction.  :crazy:

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lou_dias wrote:

Hey, where's that 256MB cell phone? :roll:

Edit:  Never mind, I went back and re-read your posts to see what you are talking about.

I misread it as 26MB (since you were comparing a cell phone to the GCN).  Where did the 256MB number come from anyway?  I've always said that the RAM and a lack of local storage (among other things) are what will keep the GCN from being a real computer.

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lou_dias wrote:
Still the cheapest ~500Mhz PPC pc he could ever buy as he put it.

Looked at the prices of older Mac PPC's lately?  You can get a B&W for well under $100 (not including monitor).  

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MskoDestny wrote:

Powermac G3s go for less than $100 on eBay. No need to look at an iMac. The Powermac has more expansion possibilities and will likely cost less to ship. No need to wait around either, there are plenty that are under $100 in auctions that are about to end within hours. Old iMacs might be hard to find on the cheap but old Powermacs are not.

I agree.  iMacs are a bit overpriced and underpowered, but probably good for kids or students that need something small.

My old Mac is just a Beige G3 MT which I got for $45 a year ago (I've got about $200 into it now).  These days you can get a Sawtooth for under $200.

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lou_dias wrote:

What's your issue?

He spelled that out.  You're so off topic in your own off topic thread that you've turned it into a nonstop Nintendo advertisment.  Of course, that's probably because that's the only good news you have.

I put forth an idea almost a year ago about getting a modern Amiga OS into alot of people's hands via the gamecube CHEAPLY.  People knocked down the idea for various reasons.  Mostly pure ignorance.  

Ignorance?  No, mostly fact.  Just because you refuse to deal with reality doesn't mean the rest of us have to agree your Nintendo fanboy rambling.

Short of not having harddrive functionality (which has been hacked into the DVD drive interface...), I've shown it to be quite possible.

CZN does some crazy {bleep}.  Remember, it has USB too.  Still not available for the common user.

I've defended my idea.  I'm sticking with it.
As I said about 10 months ago:  work started now could carry over to Revolution.  Pessimism prevented that.

No, you prevented that.  You're just one of those that talks the talk.  Or, you really know deep down that it's a stupid idea.    

Everything I "predicted" has been proven to be true.
Is that what bothers you?

Just what did you predict?  That nothing would happen?  That some hardware barriers are impossible to overcome?  Wait, that wasn't you that was every other poster here.

I had a good idea and everybody found it easy to bash it but now my idea, in retrospect, doesn't look too bad.

Nope.  It still looks bad.  Of course GC-Linux has gotten better over the past year.  It still doesn't make up for poor hardware.

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lou_dias wrote:

adolescent wrote:

lou_dias wrote:

What's your issue?

He spelled that out.  You're so off topic in your own off topic thread that you've turned it into a nonstop Nintendo advertisment.  Of course, that's probably because that's the only good news you have.

No - people wanted an upgrade path to better hardware.  Revolution is that hardware - as I said 9 months ago.

And how does and announcement about Zelda release date relate then?

right - I prevented it, not the trollish unfounded remarks like "lack of binary compatibility" and "it's not a real PPC chip" b.s. you've spouted...

I never said either of those things.  If you're going to accuse me of something, at least get the quotes correct.  After all, it was you that said the Internet ran on 10Mbps.

Everything I "predicted" has been proven to be true.
Is that what bothers you?

Just what did you predict?  That nothing would happen?  That some hardware barriers are impossible to overcome?  Wait, that wasn't you that was every other poster here.

see page 5 of this thread a post by me dated 3/30 where I predicted a major platform release would take advantage of Revolution hardware - can you say Legend Of Zelda:Twilight Princess?  And that was to prove the compatibility of the api between programming the GC and checking if Revolution hardware was present and taking advantage of it.  Point proven.

Again, I don't see how Zelda has anything to do with putting AOS4 on a game system.

Whatever.  Like I said a GC port is a stepping stone to an even better Revolution port.  Revolution hardware will run a circle around an A1 with a G4.  The mouse and be done with the Rev. controller.  It has USB 2.0 ports, SD memeory card ports and full DVD9 support as well as about triple the memory of the GC.  But you'll comeback and say something trollish like "that's not good enough" and that's all you can do is spout negativity.  Oh and don't expect Revolution to be any more than $199.  Probably less.  Hence that still qualifies it as a "potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP".

Actually, it has none of these things because it doesn't exist.  I could say the same about the new dual processor, dual core, G5 based AmigaTwo which will retail for under $199.  But, then that would be speculation right?

You can't even say that the CPU isn't going to be a good desktop cpu.  It has been proven that the GC's cpu is just a G3 FX with a faster bus 2 32 bit integer units instead on 1 64 bit, and 37 SIMD instructions added.  Rev's cpu is going to be similar but faster and with more cache.

Of course, I can't say that the chip is a good desktop CPU.  Not until it exists.  

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lou_dias wrote:

Now if only this thread wouldn't exist.  Then how would you continue existing as a troll that doesn't exist?

We can all wish.   :lol:

[adolescent]

What came first, the interpreted language, or the interpreter?  :-D

Just saying, you can't have .NET without C/C++.  (Ok, technically, they're not interpreted, but compiled to intermediate code and run via the framework, but what do you think the framework was coded in?)

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Here's a quote that sums up lou and his vast knowledge of programming languages.  

"We mock what we do not understand." - Austin Millbarge

Lou, you're a ml programmer from way back?  Yet you can't follow C syntax?  Suuuuuuuure.  :-D

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

I tried using Eclipse a couple of times for JAVA and PHP.  The problem I have with JAVA and C/C++ IDE's is that I just want to go in a do a "Hello world." and they make you spend a half hour configuring your project.  I just want to start typing and then hit Compile & Run!

...ah the beauty of VB...

That is really attributed to Visual Studio, not VB.  You can just as easily make and run a VC++, VC++ .NET, C#, etc. "Hello World" in about 30 seconds going through the same project wizard.

[adolescent]

Sorry, you forgot the quotes which made quite a difference.

"VB sucks" vs. "C sucks"

Thank goodness, the future of computer science is now secure.  :-D

[adolescent]

@lou

It's all preference.  You like BASIC, everyone else likes C.  You say C sucks, everyone else says BASIC sucks.  Get it?