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Re: USA order from Vesalie.de ?
« on: June 04, 2004, 06:29:32 PM »
You will get a PAL Magic Pack unless you specify in your reply to their "soon to come with totals" e-mail that you want an NTSC machine. Now I'm not sure if they carry both PAL and NTSC genuine unopened units, but if they have only PAL (which I suspect) then they will have to open it up and replace the motherboard with an NTSC one, which they have in stock available separately, and also possibly replace the euro keyboard (German, UK, French, or whatever it is) with one that has US kaps.

This would be a bit of a rape to the genuine new feel of the package, but it will look brand new, nevertheless. You can tell if the warranty sticker has been tampered if they opened it or not, upon receival. :-)

As for customs fees, yes they will be applied when the package is delivered. There is a slight possibility that it slips through undetected, however not likely.
 

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Re: USA order from Vesalie.de ?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2004, 08:13:09 PM »
@Morley

A1200 comes with an RF modulator. In order to produce a specific signal (PAL or NTSC), Commodore created that modulator with parts that generate video signals only for one of these 2 territories as default.

The Alice chip also (via some surface soldered jumpering) is forced to either default to PAL or NTSC options at power up. If you were to tweak this jumpering to force Alice to display NTSC as default on a PAL machine (for example), I would get 60Hz sync needed for NTSC, but I would ALWAYS be stuck with an RF modulator designed for PAL colour sync (and perhaps some additional parts within the RF modulator which I'm unaware of due to lack of technical knowledge) which would then display black and white image on the TV, unless that is if I owned a multi-system TV designed for EVEN these funky combinations of PAL colour signal running at 60Hz or NTSC at 50Hz.

This is what makes a difference (motherboard wise) between PAL and NTSC units when it comes to A1200. The RF modulator hardware is essentially the only difference, plus the jumpers for Alice default display modes (NTSC and PAL).

With A3000 and A4000, all the motherboards are the same (no RF modulator, so it's easy to produce a one for all design) and thus there is a jumper on the motherboard which can provide PAL or NTSC by a simple setting. The only means of display is RGB, which is not affected by the above-mentioned rules of the RF modulator world.
 

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Re: USA order from Vesalie.de ?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2004, 09:14:52 PM »
Yes. The PSU with A3000 and A4000 is the only difference. The motherboard jumper cap can be moved easily from pins 1-2 to 2-3 and thus choose PAL or NTSC as default Alice selection at boot. :-)