You old grandads sound just like my old man! :lol: The days where people used to wear trousers, suits and ties (pre 1960) are long gone. And as much as you guys don't like it, you just gonna have to face it - TIMES HAVE CHANGED!
Personally i wear jeans and a plain shirt when going out clubbing/pubbing, etc. Otherwise, just wear sport trousers and tops! :-)
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Oh yeah, and concerning goths: I think that idiots like Marilyn Manson are just wannabes. The real goth are people like Meat Loaf! :nervous: