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Something bothering me........
« on: October 13, 2003, 12:58:07 PM »
Hello!

I was tucking into my tuna and pasta meal (yum! yum!) and turned on my Amiga and was about to have a game of Wipeout 2097, when something was bothering me..........

The Workbench screen loaded up, but i got a requester saying "Workbench (partition) has a checksum error at xxxxxxx". Spitting out peices of pasta, due to the shock, i had to clean up the mess and look at the problem. Anyway, this meant that i could not open up any games or programs, due to this error. But after i left the machine on for 5 minutes, the problem seems to solve itself. I am glad to say that my Amiga now works okay.

But this not the first time this problem has occured, and i fear it may happen again, and may wreck further havok on my beloved Amiga, just after i have sorted out the problems concerning Warp and Power Up.

So, can anyone tell me what could possibly cause this problem and how can i put a stop to it. Before its too late! Put me out of my misery please!

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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2003, 01:02:37 PM »
I am using the software that cam with the power flyer and Amiga OS 3.9. So i think so yes.
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2003, 01:15:39 PM »
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Framiga wrote:
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backup soon your boot partition.

Then double check your EIDE flat cable and . . .reformat (QUICK) the partition.

Sometimes these checksum errors, occours with a wrong MaxTransfer value also.

Ciao



Oh no! That sounds a bit extreme! :-( Is this the only way? I will do it if i have to. Wouldn't a full format work better than a quick format, as this is what i done before. Also, would i have to worry about the Hard Drive settings?! I thinm the IDE cable is okay, as it is red bit points the same way as the CDROM IDE cable, and that works fine.

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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2003, 02:01:22 PM »
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xeron wrote:
If it works at all, the cable is in the right way. As long as you make a full backup of your system every week or so, you could leave it until it has a permanent error before reformatting.


Thats exactly what i thought!

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That happens normaly when the Amiga turns off while accessing the disk.
Normaly no problem if You are carefully whilst switching off - but it could happen when a guru or systemlock appears.
Did U recognize a slower bootprocess the first time?


That might explain it. I can't see whether my Hard Drive is accessing or not sometimes, cos the little LED cable that connects between the Power Flyer and pin 38 on the IDE (if i remember) didn't work. And it normally does happen after a system lock, not guru though. I have only had a slow boot-up process once. And thats when i has to use the Amiga OS 3.9 emergency disk to see what the devil was going on. Fixed itself in the end though, like i said.

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http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/disk/misc/SoftRaid.readme

 :-)  Dying to try this


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lionstorm wrote:
Install turboval (available from aminet) just in case your disk gets invalid (works with FFS only)
Lio


Will do! Thanks.

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Framiga wrote:
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but please . . .i wasn't speaking about a wrong insertion of the cable but a failure or a bad contacts of the flat cable!!! eh!!

With those kind of random checksum errors, the flat cable is one of the first thing to check (the integrity)

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How would i definately know this and how would i go about this?
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2003, 02:49:14 PM »
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CU_AMIGA wrote:

How would i definately know this and how would i go about this?


if the flat cable is old, replace it :-) (the cheaper and safest way)

Anyway, if you want to do a good job, backup your SYS: partition and reformat (why not in SFS).

Good luck :-)





I don't think it is the cable. It is only a couple of months old and i brought it off a mate who is into computers. I will back-up all my SYS: partition and reformat. Don't know whether to do this quick or full format though. What is SFS, another file system? Is it better than the one i currently use, the one in Amiga OS 3.9, i think its FFS.

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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2003, 02:59:29 PM »
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It could also be that the drive is wearing out ?. :-)


Oh no! :-( That has really turned the tables around! I hope not, the Hard Drive was only made last year and i purchased it this year off AmiBench, along with the Blizzard PPC!
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2003, 01:17:17 PM »
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I was tucking into my tuna and pasta meal...


You were FU..?  :-o


Yes Tuna and Pasta with tinned tomato sauce and onion is a lovely meal! I can't get enough of it! I recommend you try it! :-)

@Everyone/problem

What i will do is i will wait until i get anymore trouble or if the problem becomes permanent. I have also backed up the important conents of my hard drive so there is no worry there. If the problem continues i will try out a new file system. But which one? PFS or SFS? If those don't solve the problem then it could be the hard drive. :-(

Could it also be to do with the Power Flyer not being fully inserted? I had to install some IC Sockets to lift the Power Flyer board over the Blizzardvision but i couldn't fit them clamps around the whole thing, so i just left it! Also, the IC Socket are meant to be soldered into the Amiga IC Socket (for the ROMS). I think i have messed up a little!  :-P

Hopefully, i wont spit out any pasta and tuna again if this situation don't occur again! :-)
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2003, 02:58:46 PM »
Oh no! It happened again! :-( This time i didn't need to reboot boot. I got that stupid checksum error message and about 10 seconds later, it was okay! But this doesn't look good at all. To make matters worse, i almost choked on a piece of bacon i was eating at the time! :-( Due to the shock!
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2003, 03:13:04 PM »
Don't worry. I have made all the important backups and put them onto a smaller Hard Drive. That was the first thing i done! :-)
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 03:33:01 PM »
I am worrying! :-( How would i check the max setting, i mean, i know how to, but how would i know the max setting! (if you know what i mean!) :-) Cables are just fine. I am having curry tonight, lets hope the incident never occurs again! ;-)
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2003, 02:21:48 PM »
Oh dear! I turned on my beloved Amiga yesterday evening and a few seconds later i got a requester saying "Drive MDH0 is not a DOS Disk" i think it was something like that, i can't remember. MDH0 being the Workbench partition. Anyway it didn't load up Workbench, so i reseted the machine and it loaded up again no problem. I get that sinking feeling i will have to reformat the partition. Can someone please tell me how would i know the max transfer valua of my Hard Drive?!

Good job i wasn't having cornflakes at the time, like i was about to, or else i would have choked and died! :-)
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Re: Something bothering me........
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2003, 04:46:18 PM »
Well, it has been two weeks now and i haven't had a repeat of that incident. Maybe that is the last i will hear from it! :-) I hope!
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