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Steve Jobs was a weird arsehole... His biography goes into great detail about that. But the simple truth is Apple products were better with him around. He was tireless in ensuring that a product did exactly what it was supposed to to. Nothing more, nothing less, and that is a painful process... But it was something he was good at.

When he wasn't there they became the same anonymous, corporate jumble of random pros and cons as you get from every single other consumer electronic manufacturer who put out products of meaningless differentiation and/or incremental stat creep.

Any company ruled by shareholders puppet-mastering executives who are just cashing a paycheck and willing to simply "not lose" rather than set their sights on "winning", companies who lack a singular vision, tyrannical or otherwise, will produce nothing of real note except by accident.  

They will put no dent in the universe.  He put many.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2014, 07:51:35 PM »
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Fanboy Alert!

And hater conflator alert.  The Newton was a product under Sculley and was among the first projects killed upon Jobs' return to Apple.  

He was right about heading towards a quieter running system and based on those failures we have successful products of evolution.  Anyone else is happy to keep making the same crap over and over again.  

I wonder how many A4000D's are still operational.  We experienced 100% failure rate from poor thermal design at DD and that was from a more conventional design and layout.  It wouldn't take much to point out engineering foibles in almost every post-2000 Amiga desktop system, if one were so inclined, before getting to the let downs in the later chips.  A500s unseated chips.  A3000s were thermally better but an awful design from a maintenance standpoint, though nothing compared to what you'd get from Dell in the '90s, or pretty much any compact mini-tower PC.

It's either ignorant or disingenuous to poo-poo the LISA and Jobs while enjoying this website, any website, while enjoying an Amiga, a GUI, MorphOS, movies with visual effects,  CG animated features, smart phones in America...

I could go on.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 06:38:00 AM »
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Neither Jobs personally nor Apple invented any of those things...

Here's a history lesson for you then.  Also, a suggestion to read a little more carefully.  I'm mostly talking about Jobs himself, though you do have Apple to thank for the proliferation of the smart phone in America.  Not the bull%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! that Motorola and everyone else had been pedaling while Asia had been enjoying even smarter phones than we have now since the '90s at least.

The Web began life on NeXT.

Regardless of the "black hardware" being a niche within a niche, OpenStep powered the proliferation of large scale web development.  And now every Mac is running NeXT software which is and always has been what Linux would like to be on the desktop some day.  Only the most unenlightened point at the failure of the black hardware as truly significant.  He won and actually accomplished more in the end than simply starting a new company to compete with the company that he founded that fired him.

One could argue that The Web would have been invented on something else.  Newsflash, it wasn't.  Speculate all you want about woulda-shoulda-coulda.

Pixar started life as a department of Lucasfilm but Lucas didn't see a future in what Ed Catmull and John Lassetter and his crew were doing so they spun off with the help of Jobs who would end up owning 70% of the company initially and then 100% some years later after repeated capital investment to keep it going while they continued developing Photorealistic Renderman, which popularized procedural shading, vastly increased the quality of shading in general, pushing forward the art and science of CGI as a whole.  PRman would power not only the first ever feature length animated film but the first ever computer generated image to be widely judged as indistinguishable from a photograph as well as the highest levels of photoreal visual effects for over a decade with virtually no competition.

One of my disappointments with the initial release of OSX was the fact that Photorealistic Renderman was no longer part of the OS like it was on NeXT.  On my NeXTStation Turbo Color it was built in and offered a lot of functionality that wasn't found in the SGI, Sun or Mac versions of Renderman.  By this time though, I think Pixar was in the black to nearly $5B in cash thanks to the successes of their films distributed by Disney and a single seat of Renderman to every other customer cost roughly twice the pricetag of the most expensive Mac you could buy at the time so they couldn't just go around giving it away anymore like when Jobs was trying to sell "black hardware".

Whatever to the rest of that rubbish you're talking about.

It's all kinds of ironic and funny to me so many Amigans talking trash while "next generation" Amigas are often what one could consider old Mac hardware.  I see the Amiga equivalent to Sharia Law is alive and well, hah-hah.
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