NTSC - what a bunch of junk

[Khephren]

While installing the 3.1 ROMS and WB3.1 in my A4000, I decided to give my motherboard the switchover to PAL as the defacto standard. HAving never bothered to run workbench in the PAL modes up until now, all I can say is NTSC is the most flickery POS I have ever seen.  Super Hi res mode in PAL has barely barely noticeable flicker.  I know it's kind of a moot point these days, but man did the US and anyone else on that crappy NTSC standard drop the ball.

hmm, NTSC should indeed be less flickery. Is your TV definitely NTSC?

@Chaoslord

"Are you drunk? or on some kind of medication?" bit much don't you think?

[Khephren]

Looks like your monitor has given up on those frequencies
I'd test it on a telly to make sure it isn't the Amiga, following what CL said above (most modern TV's in the UK should hold an NTSC signal).

[Khephren]

PAL interlace is a flickery bastard, for sure. I used to do all my artwork in interlace. My eyes would strobe for about an hour after i'd come off the machine! Shame they never came up with a PAL 60 mode like the dreamcast had.

of course, now LCD are the norm, the flicker is pretty much eliminated.

PAL games should not strobe, as they are not in an interlaced mode.

[Khephren]

VisualPrefs? I'm sure that lets you double a lot of the line thickness, as well as change the colours so there was less contrast.

There was also 'magicTV' for 16 colour AGA workbench's. God knows how that worked, might as well have been magic to me!

I used to use a combo of these. Of course they were bugger all use for my two main packages- DPaint and Imagine. So strobe eye continued

adding a SCART cable made the biggest difference to me.

[Khephren]

On an LCD it's another story, but then again - that's a progressive display and shouldn't be flickering at all.

Tell that to the el cheapo LCD i just plugged my Xbox into. Copied my workbench over to Xwinuae, and it's flickering really badly. It's like 1988 all over again

[Khephren]

wing commander did not run in interlace. it ran in 320x200 (same rez as PC VGA version). Amigas standard mode (in PAL areas) is 320x256, which is higher so that's not why it looks grainy. The reasons why it's grainy are: It's for ECS, which normal colour max is 64, VGA is 256. VGA wing commander runs in a chunky pixel format, amiga uses slower bitplains, so they used less bitplanes to speed it up. Also they ran it in 320x200, probably for ease of conversion, and to keep the speed up. Also, it's ported from the 16 colour EGA version, which is butt ugly.

The CD32 version (which also runs on the A1200)  has loads more colours, and looks more like it's VGA counterpart. Although it still runs at 320x200.

[Khephren]

Never seen NTSC TV. Was it really that bad?

[Khephren]

lol to you both with knobs on. Besides, english cuisine is now officialy the curry. Apart from cakes, we do make nice cakes.

[Khephren]

Are you sure it kills the flu virus or does the virus just flee the obnoxious odor?

and I don't understand American obsession with mexican food. I guess when you live in close proximity/are connected to another culture, you learn to love their food.

[Khephren]

@stedy

So, an Amiga user and a TV expert, brilliant! Now tell me something iv'e wanted to know for years...how the hell does magicTV work?