First Natami MX boards produced

[Khephren]

Well, I was one of them and the only way I know how to apologise to the Natami team is to purchase their product.  I just hope they accept it.  

Bloody hell, I never thought i'd see the day!!

Now, about this is 050, what is it? I must have missed it, I know they were going for an 070, but I though machines released before that would have a real 060?

Who is your 050 and what does he do?

[Khephren]

Hi,

Ok, I just bought a 6 core 1090T with a Radeon 5770 graphics card with a MSI board and 4 gigs of memory for about $600. So once you get this 133mhz fantastic machine going what are you going to play a twenty year old game called doom. I don't see the cost to performance ratio.

I originally bought the Amiga 1000 for these reasons:

1. My Otrana portable Z80/8088 portable suitcase computer quit working.
2. After looking around, the only PC type computer that I could afford at the time was a Tandy.
3. The Amiga 1000 hit the streets and impressed me with the Transformer, which gave me enough PC compatibility to do my programming and sell my PC programs.
Gave me the opportunity to learn programming in 68K mode and had a lot of new neat goodies to play with.

Believe it or not I don't like going backwards, and especially going backwards and spending twice the money for stepping backwards.

I still use the Amiga and I have it setup right next to my 6 core pc. I love showing off the Amiga 4000 because no one believes that such an old computer can operate like it does.

Oh well this is why the Amiga is in the situation that it is in, because I would like to see the Amiga do the following:

CPU -- move faster, like ghz not mhz.
Graphics -- advanced to millions of colors, shaders, etc. with faster graphics. AGA is dead.
Sound -- I want stereo quality, not 4, 8, 16 or 32 voices.
Hardware -- SATA, USB, USB 2.0, USB 3.0., media card readers.

Face it 133mhz is not going to play a DVD movie or do streaming.

smerf

Of course most of us would like to see an uber fast Amiga. I'd like an ARM variant. Part of me wants a modern amiga, and part of me is like a classic car collector.
But I think many of us are a different sort of Amigan to you, the Amiga is a classic architecture to me, and the NatAmi is an obvious step up, and continuation from even the best classic machine.
I don't really care to much about ghz for the Amiga, I have two multi core multi ghz PC's for that. They are my work, the Amiga is my hobby. I want NatAmi, and I want an ARM AROS machine. I'm greedy.

AGA is dead, and the Amiga is dead? we all know this, but still it's our hobby.

Also the graphics, sound, and hardware -as far as I know NatAmi supports most of those things (excluding shaders, i'd imagine it's a fixed pipeline).

As for DVD and streaming, It would be nice, but not a necessity. I own 5 devices for playing back DVD's, and i'll generally watch a DVD on the 42" LCD and not a computer screen. Anyway An 060 is not as weak as it's Mhz rating might appear, it might surprise you.

I think your happy with UAE, and I have no problem with that, tools for the job etc. But I've always wanted a new classic Amiga with 24bit graphics, 16bit sound and above 060 performance, running AmigaOS native. Maybe in a few years i'll have one.

[Khephren]

and as it's a hobby and our money to spend as we like, we don't care that it costs a lot - anything electronic custom-made in limited quantities will cost a lot!

Well, I care little bit  about cost  But I can't see it costing more than doing this (well, hoping):

towering my A1200 to allow 24bit graphics card
adding a 24bit graphics card
Adding a 3D accelerator
Adding USB
Adding a 16bit soundcard
Adding a 060 accelerator

Which are things I would like my Amiga to do. But it would end up just as bulky as my A4000T, and probably stuck together with gaffer tape. And I suppose a lot of the bits would be second hand, along with the A1200 itself.

However, if flogging my A4000T/040/PIV would cover most of the cost, I think i'd probably do it. does that make me a bad person

[Khephren]

While I applaud this effort and the progress it has reached this far (and thinks the pictures of the PCB are really cool), I'd still humbly want to point out that it still is just as unreleased as, for example, the Pios One, BoXeR and Dragon:

too late for me, save yourself!, i've already flicked the excitement switch to the on position!
(granted I got caught out with the AGA, walker and boxer)