My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[Khephren]

Not sure why all the hoo har?
The guy is building novelty PCs with a retro name that he has licensed. One of them a pretty neat looking c64.
Free world, free market. If ya don't like them don't buy them.
It's like arguing over a re-licensed version of Star Trek on the TV.  If you don't like it you turn it over, you don't try and stop the thing being produced.
My view is there's room in the world for this type of kit. it's a positive effort.
As was Red's.  WD Red.
As long as there is clarity as to what these machines do, and are, and what they arent.

Who was it that said, any publicity is good publicity.  It might re-awaken a new Commodore/Amiga consciousness.

nothing wrong with novelty PC's, it's the way it's been gone about.
Amiga Inc lost the amigaOS4 court case, calling the new skinned linux OS5 is just underhand, and a clear attempt at obfuscation. They have no OS4 to be an upgrade from.
Same thing for the name of the machine, it's named to mislead, and to be confused with the new X1000 from A-eon.
There is room for this kit. It looks nice, if it's got a commodore and amiga logo, and looks a bit like workbench-that's cool.

they could have went about it in a less underhanded manner, and let it stand on it's own merits.

[Khephren]

They have a legal right to use it as they see fit. They hold a license and despite threats, there has been no legal action by Hyperion.

legally shaky ground though, don't you think? Licensing out IP for 'workbench5' when the court has told you you've lost the rights to 'Amiga OS4' and 'workbench 4', and Hyperion has the right to continue dev on that product (presumably to other version numbers).


  As for Hyperion, no product, no legal action. When commodore they have something to show, i'm sure Hyperion will have something to say. As i'm a classic user, I can just get out the popcorn and watch more amiga soap opera.

[Khephren]

You missed the rest of the sentence that quote came from and it's extremely important since it a qualifier in nature.

i'd be genuinly interested in knowing the rest of that.

[Khephren]

an up to date Amiga OS would need billions to make commercially successful... It is as viable as is space elevator.

Amiga is something that was once successful, and is no longer.
And an orbital lift tower (i'm a brit, so it's the law that I don't use the word elevator )is something we defineltly need to have, and to make viable with all expediancy.

back on topic though, I need to read that 43 page doc, or at least be pointed to a thread about it, can anyone help?

[Khephren]

Why does it have to be innovative? I understand some people only want it to be innovative to honour the memory of old Commodore and the Amiga. You can do that without innovation by making sure the brand at least survives, think of it as selling Commodore branded PCs. Does that make you feel better?

Eventually Commodore (whichever guise) can invent the next ipod, ipad, iphone, idontgiveacrap but a startup company in a recession can't. You can't invest in research without the funds or investment in a sound business model.

I don't care about the brand, and I don't come on here for the brand. I'm here because I like to use the Amiga OS, and it's associated hardware and software.

But building up cash by selling branded product, ok, I don't mind that. But they should not be muddying the waters about a new Amiga/AmigaOS, while at the same time as confusing it with someone elses product, I can't see it helping their cause -As this thread (and others on other forums) demonstrate.

[Khephren]

If they want to do something cool, they should sponsor NatAmi dev and get AROS onto it. then i'll buy their chinese PC cases