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New A4000, some questions...
« on: August 29, 2004, 12:33:47 AM »
Hello again all! I just bought an A4000 with loads of goodies. It has a 040/40 Mhz processor and 12 mb ram.
The problem is this : When running in Workbench everything goes extremely fast. Feels like three times the speed of my old A1200 030/50 Mhz. However, when running games, my new machine feels slower. Not by much, but still, I expected twice the speed. Anyone who knows why this is? I have some programs running in the background like MCP and a couple of others. But I had some of them on my old machine to. Anyone who knows what might be the cause of this.
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2004, 01:04:59 AM »
I mean games like Gloom, Breathless and Alien Breed 3D 2. Those should shureley run faster on a faster processor.
I am running DirOpus 5 in the background as well. Might be it...
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2004, 01:16:10 AM »
Oxypatcher? Hmm, haven't heard of it. Might be installed though. What is it?
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2004, 02:06:43 PM »
These mathlib seem good. Ill try them. Also, I tried a demo called "Impossible" by the group "loonies". It ran quite slow from Wb 3, so I tried to boot with an old Wb 1.3 disk, but then It couldn't find my FPU at all. Perhaps that is the problem. Wb 3 won't simply find my 040 processor and instead uses the standard 020 one. I do not know if the 040 is standard in this model of the A4000 or if it is on a turbocard. If it is, I might need turbocard-drivers...
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2004, 08:15:08 PM »
I am shure there is no graphics card in it. And I have the 040-library in the libs dir. What memory patches? Can they be found on aminet?
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2004, 05:12:55 PM »
Ok, I ran a benchmark program to check stuff out. It is a 040 processor, however, it is running in 25 Mhz and not 40 as I previously thought. What do you think, is a 040/25 Mhz faster or slower than a 030/50 Mhz? If it aint, there is probably nothing wrong at all. The strange thing in that case is that Workbench works like 10 times faster. That might have to do with faster busboard, hd, mem and so on though...
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 01:30:48 PM »
I took some pics from the inside of my A4000. Perhaps those can help :





Also, I have MCP running and it has two options which might have something to do with this. The first one, called processor (pretty self-explanatory :) ) has loads of options. Should the be in any special order to get maximum speed? Also there is an option called "Speed Ramsey" which supposedly speeds up ram. Should I use it?
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 11:56:25 PM »
Ok, here are two pics of the Processor-board :




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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2004, 12:49:37 AM »
Ok, so I should remove the battery. Is it just to cut of the connectors? And are you shure that nothing else than the clock needs the battery?

So, if I got everything right, that processor card isnt good because it has no ram on it, so the ram has to be used from somewhere else and that makes stuff slow? And there is no patch or something to go around this?

Sorry for beeing so noob-ish. But I guess this is the only way to learn.

One last question, if I want to add memory to that scsi expansion card, what type of mem should I use.
Is this ok? : http://www.tradera.com/auction/AMIGA___C64___spel/aid_7535664
Well, its in swedish, but look at the pic...
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2004, 01:41:46 PM »
I have removed the battery. I really wont need a clock anyway. The board is fully populated, but its only a total of 12 mb, so I might get som bigger sims. Perhaps I can find som from GVP on an auction. I also have an empty slot on the mother-board. Can I add some mem there?

Also, I checked the settings in MCP. These are the processor settings I have for the moment :
An (X) after something means its currently turned on.

VBR to Fast-Memory (X)
Instruction Cache (X)
SpeedRamsey - Tried this, it crashed
SSP to Fast-Memory
Copyback (X)
Data Chache (X)
FastGary (X)
FastRom
Audio Filter

Can someone tell which should be checked/unchecked to get maximum speed. The help-file is not very useful in this area
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2004, 07:17:07 PM »
I checked it, its 2 mb on the motherboard, and 12mb on the SCSI-card. And the reason its slow is because the SCSI card has slow acess to the memory. In another word, using only the 2 mb on the motherboard would be faster?

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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2004, 08:52:13 PM »
Fblit? I got a program called SpeedBlit, I think.
Are there any other programs that patches or in other ways speeds up the system?
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Re: New A4000, some questions...
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2004, 04:25:13 PM »
My system uses about 1 mb on boot. But I have quite a lot of programs starting. Like MCP, KingCon, NewIcons and similiar...
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