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Offline Mr_Bumpy

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« on: April 04, 2014, 10:35:34 AM »
Within the "Something Else" installation option, here is what you want to do:
1) Select the current Windows partition (/dev/sda1).
2) Click "Change..."
3) You will need to shrink your Windows partition to make room for a Linux partition. Enter a new size for your Windows partition. Based on how much space you've used (almost 30 GB), you could safely shrink it down to 60 GB (60000 MB) and have plenty of room to spare.
4) After the /dev/sda1 partition has been shrunk, you will now see a new option in the list: "free space". Select this option, then click the plus icon to add a new partition in the free space, and give it the following options:
  Type: Primary
  New partition size: just accept whatever's here (it will be all your available free space)
  Use as: Ext4 journaling file system
  Mount point: / (you can select it from the drop-down menu)

Then click OK. Your new partition will show up as "/dev/sda2" alongside your Windows partition on "/dev/sda1", and you can proceed to "Install Now".

Good luck :)
 

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 06:17:26 PM »
Ral-clan, I feel like you've had a lot of info thrown at you, much of it conflicting. I wanted to just summarize a few things for you based on my years of using Linux as my primary OS.

**Distros**
Everybody has their favorite, and no doubt you've heard countless recommendations. My suggestion is to stick with the Ubuntu family when starting out. It's the best supported, and help is easy to find. Mint is not a bad option either, since it is based on Ubuntu and is compatible with all of the same software. If you want to do more exploring later, there are a crap ton of distros out there.

The Ubuntu family of OS's all run from the same software repository (where your programs are pulled from when you install them from the software center), and can run all of the same software. The main difference is the desktop environment that is used. Here is a rundown of the different Ubuntu flavors:

1. Ubuntu: Uses the Unity desktop. This desktop is modern with an eye toward convergence (works well on netbooks, as well as full-blown desktop systems. Might be a bit sluggish on older PCs, especially those with older graphics cards and single-core CPUs. This is probably the most polished out-of-the-box Linux experience of all the Ubuntu variants, and the version I always recommend as a starting point if a person's computer is modern enough for it to run crisply.

2. Kubuntu: Uses the KDE desktop. This is my preferred desktop environment, because it is super-configurable, and the desktop default tools (file manager, text editor, etc.) are the best in their class, IMO. KDE uses up a fair amount of RAM, and while it can be sluggish on older PCs, is quite configurable in its system usage.

3. Xubuntu: Uses the XFCE desktop. This is my preferred desktop for older PCs. It uses more RAM than Lubuntu, but otherwise is much more fully-featured and easily configurable. The applications run quite speedy on a system like what you are using. LXDE's control panel and file manager, etc. are all quite good. On systems with slow graphics cards, turning off "compositing" (which is what draws shadows and transparency effects) will give you a nice performance boost. I'm really surprised that nobody has mentioned Xubuntu as an option for you, as I think it would be a more ideal balance of features/resource consumption for your particular PC.

4. Lubuntu: This is the lightest-weight Ubuntu variant. Personally, I miss a lot of the features and ease of configurability of other desktops, particularly XFCE and KDE. With Lubuntu, certain things aren't as easily changed without editing config files, etc, whereas XFCE has more point-and click configuration options. That being said, none of the other options will be more spry than Lubuntu.

Another note: Only Ubuntu and Xubuntu feature the official "Ubuntu Software Center" application. The other flavors have their own "software center" apps, which don't seem to handle getting paid applications as well. You can install the official "Ubuntu Software Center" on the other desktop environments, but you may run into issues with this (screenshots not showing up, etc.).

My personal recommendation for your setup would be Xubuntu.

**LTS vs. 6-month releases**
If you prefer stability, you're probably best off only installing/upgrading to LTS (long-term support) versions of the Ubuntu OS's. If you prefer to live on the "bleeding edge" and always have the latest software and tools, then you may prefer to use the 6-month releases. The next LTS will be coming out this month. After you upgrade from your current version to this month's release, you have the option of leaving that install in place and not upgrading until the next LTS is released in two years, or upgrading every six months to the latest version. In my experience, sticking with the LTS is the best option, because although upgrades usually go smoothly, things can go wrong or break during an upgrade, and by sticking with the LTS, you are giving yourself better odds that something won't get hosed. What do I mean by "hosed"? Well, most commonly: driver issues, especially for proprietary hardware, meaning research into why my wireless is no longer working, for example. Not trying to scare you, but it can happen, and it's less likely to happen with the LTS releases.

If you are intrigued by the greater stability of LTS releases, but want to stay with the very latest updates of certain programs (beyond the security updates that Ubuntu officially creates), it is easy to find and add PPA's, which are additional software repositories, usually created for people who want to keep up with the latest developments in a particular piece of software.

All in all, enjoy the experience of exploring something new. Expect there to be a lot to learn. Don't expect everything to go perfectly, and remember: All OS's suck. They all have their strengths, weaknesses, and unique ways of making you want to put a hole through your wall ;)  What is going to be best for you comes down to which battles you're willing to fight. When a Linux system is running well, it will be the smoothest sailing you'll ever know, if your experience is anything like mine. I've also had my fair share of problems over the years, but in every case, I have learned something that has empowered me, and at this point, I am never worried about ending up in a situation that I can't get out of.

 

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 10:54:14 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;761921
I'm really not sure how to properly create the three root/home/swap partitions for my Lubuntu installation - or even if I need to.  And if I do, how will the Lubuntu installer know how to use the three partitions I create?

Once you have assigned a mount point to a partition (in your case "/"), it will be used. If you create a swap partition, it will be used automatically. A swap partition is optional. It is used as "virtual memory", when you run out of physical RAM. It is also used for hibernation, assuming you've created a swap partition that's at least as 1.5 x the amount of RAM in your system.

Quote from: ral-clan;761921
I also noticed your Linux partition seems to be "logical" rather than "primary".  Why did you choose this, and what should I choose?  That's confusing for me.


Hard drives can only have a maximum of four actual (primary) partitions. If you need more partitions, then you make one of the four partitions (usually the last one) an "extended partition" and then you can create "logical volumes" within the extended partition to get more than four total partitions on the drive. Confusing, eh?

In your case, you would only have two partitions: Windows (/dev/sda1, NTFS), Linux (/dev/sda2, ext4). Or if you wanted to create a swap partition as well, then you'd have three. Either way, you should create them all as primary partitions.
 

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 11:07:24 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;761921
I'm really not sure how to properly create the three root/home/swap partitions for my Lubuntu installation - or even if I need to.  And if I do, how will the Lubuntu installer know how to use the three partitions I create?


Once you have assigned a mount point to a partition (in your case "/"), it will be used. If you create a swap partition, it will be used automatically. A swap partition is optional. It is used as "virtual memory", when you run out of physical RAM. It is also used for hibernation, assuming you've created a swap partition that's at least as 1.5 x the amount of RAM in your system.

Creating a separate /home partition is also optional. Just a quick lesson on the Linux file system: Linux doesn't use drive letters like Windows does. All of the files available to a Linux system are accessible within a single directory tree. The very first folder (the one that contains everything else) is called "root" and is represented by "/". Within "/" will be a number of other folders, including "/etc", "/home", "/usr" and a bunch more. All of your personal data and configuration is placed in the home folder ("/home"). The benefit to having "/home" on its own partition is that your personal data and configuration are kept separate from the rest of the system, making it easier to reinstall/change the OS without having to first move your personal data.

Considering the size of your hard drive, you may be better off not creating a separate home partition. It will also be simpler :)

Quote from: ral-clan;761921
I also noticed your Linux partition seems to be "logical" rather than "primary".  Why did you choose this, and what should I choose?  That's confusing for me.


Hard drives can only have a maximum of four actual (primary) partitions. If you need more partitions, then you make one of the four partitions (usually the last one) an "extended partition" and then you can create "logical volumes" within the extended partition to get more than four total partitions on the drive. Confusing, eh?

In your case, you would only have two partitions: Windows (/dev/sda1, NTFS), Linux (/dev/sda2, ext4). Or if you wanted to create a swap partition as well, then you'd have three. Either way, you should create them all as primary partitions.
 

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 05:35:49 AM »
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Your system should have a backup tool already installed. http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/
 
it is built into the system so just nerd configuring. If not i beleive its easy enough to just grab from the "app store". Its what i use.


I believe ral-clan was looking for a way to backup his entire OS partition, in which case he would need to use something like a Clonezilla LiveCD. However, the Nero Backitup software might support Linux partitions (I found some mentions online about it), but I'm not sure if your version will support ext4. You may need to check with the Nero Backitup documentation about that.

Anyway, I use Clonezilla personally, and it works great. You will want to follow the documentation when you do it for the first time, but after that, it's pretty easy to remember the steps.
 

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 06:53:44 AM »
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Good because Clonezilla fails for some reason, despite the fact that I'm following all online tutorials to a "T".


Where does it fail? Are you backing up to an external hard drive? Are you using the i386 or amd64 version of the Clonezilla liveCD? I've had problems before with the amd64 version on my laptop. Otherwise, the i386 version works perfectly on both of my systems.
 

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Re: Tips on moving to Linux?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 03:03:20 PM »
The only thing I can think of is perhaps you need to run a chkdsk on the NTFS drive. Have you booted into Windows since resizing the partition? It will usually run chkdsk automatically when booting when it discovers the partition size has changed.