Open Amiga - Defining the Standards

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All contributions are welcome, and any time / talent donated is especially appreciated.  This is OUR project as a COMMUNITY.  The more we all get involved, the better.

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AmigaOS standards from this point on will be defined by Hyperion Entertainment and ONLY Hyperion Entertainment

.........and OpenAmiga standards from this point on wil be defined by the APPLICATION DEVELOPERS and ONLY the APPLICATION DEVELOPERS.

No apps, no platform. Simple as.

So if we set up this standard, more apps for a three platforms and any other OpenAmiga compliant platforms in the future.

Who's to say an OpenAmiga compliant environment can't be created on Linux/Windows/BeOS years from now.

You get me now?

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.........and OpenAmiga standards from this point on wil be defined by the APPLICATION DEVELOPERS and ONLY the APPLICATION DEVELOPERS

I *hate* playing devil's advocate here, I really do.  One thing you are all forgetting is that Amiga Inc has a long, documented history of zealously threatening people who "encroach" on their trademarks and IP.  

They (Amiga Inc, Hyperion, or Eyetech) will, unless I am mistaken (which is possible) see any attempts to design an Open Amiga architecture as a threat to their existence.  After all, they're not getting paid for it, right?

That being said, I sincerely hope this initiative continues and is wildly successful.   We NEED something community driven to build a basis for real, open, thriving future development.  Amiga.org will gladly donate any resources we can to this project to see it succeed.  

We have seen what closed-development and proprietary dongled systems get us...  Let's get back to heading towards the future.

[System]

Thanks Wayne! :-D

I've been thinking about AInc and the litigation gene that they seem to have, and I think we'll be ok.

We are not using any IP,copyrighted or trademarked stuff.  Just telling people that if they want to have software that is easily ported, they should comply to this minimum spec.

and openamiga is one word, so we aren't using their trade mark Amiga either. ;-)

If they did decide to try and sue us, who would they go after, me? matt? every developer that writes apps that conform to the spec?

The community would not be impressed by them either, and it would be the final nail in their coffin IMNSHO.

Can you imagine it?

A company suing an collection of developers that are actually promoting for FREE said companies product?  Not even AInc are that stupid. Are they?!?!?!? ;-)

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@mdma,

Glad you seem to have thought of everything.  Just be aware that they traditionally consider anything with the word Amiga in it to belong to them.  I see your point about developing an open concept.  Amazingly, this is what Amiga Inc promised and failed to do since 2000.  Before responding to that, realize that it's not a dig against Amiga Inc.

But... in McEwen's FIRST appearance as CEO (circa 2000), one of his first promises was an open architecture so that many manufacturers could write to it.  

What we ended up with is a closed-architecture, proprietary, dongle-driven system by Eyetech and Hyperion.  I am NOT suggesting that that's either a good, or bad thing, but like so many things that Amiga Inc has promised us through the years, I consider this yet another promise unfulfilled.

Not even AInc are that stupid. Are they?!?!?!?

Before I, or any color troll get started off on this tangent, let me stop you right there with a basic "no comment". :-)

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Lets mix up the Amiga gene pool a little.  Maximize the benefits of evolution! ;-)

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@bloodline

Fully agreed.  A common path (as long as it's not the "lowest common denominator") is best for everyone concerned now.  Put away the flags and armor, pick up your keyboards, and get back to coding which is really the only important thing left.

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@Wayne

Just be aware that they traditionally consider anything with the word Amiga in it to belong to them.

I reckon their are plenty of 'Prior Art' examples of the word amiga everywhere.  Particularly in Spanish libraries! ;-)

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The Tearm I use with AROS is "Cross pollenate"

Stalks or seeds? ;-)

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Will someone who has an account on amigaworld.net please "Ask Fleecy" what he thinks of OpenAmiga? :-D

I haven't submitted it as news there, as I want to see if it makes it's way on there from the other sites it's own.

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@amimonkey

And you've bought Amigaworld.net into this for what reason?

Because I mentioned it first!

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edited by Wayne : off-topic

This site is not about close-mindedness and hero worship, it is about ANY AND ALL alternatives to the Classic Amiga community.

Here's a fact.  If the majority of Amiga community members thought that ANY of the parties involved were doing a perfect job, the ideas and concepts of an OpenAmiga consortium would have never been needed.

End of story.  Now, let's get back to helping the OpenAmiga effort please?

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In a desperate attempt to get immediately back on topic, how can I, and Amiga.org help the Open Amiga effort?

Wayne

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@Wayne

Would it be possible for us to have a banner ad or something similar on amiga.org?

Maybe have a separate 'membership by request' forum?

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@mdma,

Not sure what you're asking, but get me a banner and I'll be happy to put it up for you.