Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II

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@ JoannaK

But don't yu dare to compare good, tallented and honest man like Jay Miner to this --- This McEwen

And do you know Mister McEwen personally? You may not share his vision for an Amiga future and maybe you don't think he is a good CEO, but he does do his absolute best to keep his Amiga dream going.

Jay Miner had to jump through several loop-holes himself to keep the original Amiga project alive. I have absolutely no trouble comparing the two. And I hope Bill will deliver as well.

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@ AmiGR

Not paying an employee and keep telling him that

When there was no money, he could not be paid. It's quite simple actually.

You cannot fire an employee if you owe him money.

And as you know he wasn't fired, he was simply *asked* to leave for the good of the company.

Anyway AmiGR wanted me to fill in the more complete story. So, there you have it.

[System]

Well, I don't have any problem with comparing Bill McEwen to Jay Miner.

I'll stand up for the man here.

I would love to meet Mr. Bill McEwen, no matter what is said.
I would also love to meet Mr. Bill Buck so I could poke him in the eye with my finger.
(I wouldn't really)

Genesi is no better than Haage and Partner in my book.

Are Herald Frank and Bill Buck brothers?

[System]

Oh crap...

I hope you're not serious about Bill Buck and Herald Frank being brothers.

If it is true, please don't even restate it.
It's too much to bear right now.

I'm about sick to death of these people.

[System]

What exactly is it about the Amiga?

AmigaOne and OS4 have the capabilites to bring the Amigan spirit back to the world.

But everytime Amiga is close to succeeding, someone like Bill Buck or Herald Frank comes along and tries to destroy Amiga.

They get a loyal bunch of people to follow them.
Make them believe strange things.
And attack all that is good and potentially succesful.

I've got to get the deathbed vigil and see why this curse is upon Amiga.

I hope to God that someday soon, the curse is broken, and Amiga can once again put itself in the mainstream of the technical world.

And all these people that want to pull down the community and destroy the Amiga name...
I hope that they are brought down by thier own devices.

[System]

Hey Strobe.

You shut up.

Your eyes are wincing because you're a punk kid, no doubt.

You wouldn't know what morals were if they reached up and slapped the bag off your head.

[System]

It really doesn't matter to me which is faster in benchmarks.

The fact is...
I wouldn't run MorphOS (especially now) on my system if you held a gun to my head.

These kind of people are what the Amiga community does not need.
They only love to destroy what good is left in the community.

For all that is good, I hope Genesi soon leaves the scene.

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@ Kay

Hi Ben, it is time for a showdown

It is almost unbelievable and very silly to see the way Buck acts as a little child instead like a CEO. After personally asking him for details regarding his "tests" he comes up with yet another wildwest cover up.

Surely his "tests" did not include Altivec optimised software. The Velocity Engine, as widely known is the main selling point of a G4 over a G3. And I sincerely would like to know how he can test hardware he does not have access to (latest G4 AmigaOne-XE or Teron)?

@ Billy the kid

Bucky boy, please stop wasting the time of the Amiga team, as you have been doing for quite some time now! They have a job to do, and you may watch from the sidelines until you release your "Pegasos2 with April6".

[System]

It's not about the G4 itself, it's about the - regarding Genesi (who otherwise hardly would want to exchange Peg1/Ap1-boards to Ap2-ones) - still buggy ArticiaS.

Well, history has told me that Bill mislead people with regard to earlier bugs. So I don't consider him a reliable source and would only trust information provided by independent 3rd parties, especially regarding "tests" with so few provided details.

[System]

No Kay, you're doing a fine job.

It's the axis of Evil that needs to leave, and that doesn't include you.

[System]

@Turrican

I really don't like though reading posts in these forums from people that are just blind followers of one or the other and can't be happy with anything good happen's in the Amiga community because it is not from "THE_NAME"...

Well, I don't hate you either.
But I do hate the fact that you call me a blind follower of AmigaOne/OS4, as if I didn't have a reason for choosing one or the other.
That is most rediculous.

I simply don't like the way Genesi and all thier people do buisness.
I don't like the way they are handeling thier OS.
I don't like the tactics being used to try and destroy Amiga Inc.
I love the way Amiga Inc. are wanting to handle thier system and software.
I love the dongle code.
I really believe that Hyperion can deliver a MUCH more pleasurable experience than Genesi, and the makers of MorhOS can.

I can go on and on and on, but I won't.

I have made my choice based upon what I see, and it's not proper for you to say that I blindly follow Amiga Inc. and Hyperion.

I can just as easily say that you blindly follow Genesi, but I'm not going to.
You must see something in Genesi that you like or you wouldn't be following them in thier goals.

I see nothing at all that I like about the company, but on the other hand I see a lot that I like about the other side.

It's called choice.
I've made my choice, and I didn't do it blindly.

Thank you.

and furthermore...
I personally think that it is immoral to clone another OS and use it for your own personal gain.

If you don't agree with me then fine.
But that doesn't make you right, neither does it make me right.

But I have my opinion and you have yours.
That's the way it should be, and that's the way it is.

[System]

Read the post above.

[System]

Would you stop already?

If you've got something to say, then spit it out man.
Otherwise, shut the crap up!

Amiga Inc. hasn't blown anything.
They are still the leaders as long as they are in buisness.

I haven't seen them say they are shutting down yet.

So please.
If you have a wild hair up your butt, then get it out!
SAY IT or SHUT UP!

[System]

As far as I'm concerned, Amiga Inc. is in as much control as they can be under the circtumstances.

I believe in thier vision, and what they have said concerning AmigaOne/OS4.

No problems here, except for the fact that they are broke, and certain people are trying to destroy them.
I hope, of course, that backfires on those certain people.

As far as Amiga Inc. not paying one of it's employees...

I haven't heard that person complain about anything.
Maybe that person was paid.
Maybe that person didn't.

But it needs to be that particular person complaining, and not you.

If that person wants to speak, I'll listen.
But if that person doesn't want to speak, then it must not be as important as you say it is.