Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility Partner Advisory Council

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@L8-X

My sincere admiration for your level of patience.  I can't wait for 45 years for anything resembling a usable computer.

I already have Windows and it's more than usable for anything and everything I need to do.  Is it perfect?  No, but it's a damned site better than a machine which hasn't been updated in 7 years (and won't really be updated, just made faster for the next 10).

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The writing has been on the wall for a very long time, but many have just refused to see it, in desperate hopes that Amiga would actually become Amiga again.  All it has become, it seems, is MSAmiga, Inc with a bunch of boneheads at the helm!

Wayne is right for the most part.  The execs have only used the name and the users for further gain and to entice programmers in enough to get their sad little four games to market.  Everyone should have realized when AmigaAnywhere became M$ only there was a problem, heck probably even sooner than that!  Bill and crew have made one bonehead decision after another and everyone there have followed him like sheep going to a slaughter!

The one part I can't really agree with Wayne on is Gary Peake, as I have not heard much substance or truth out of his ramblings anytime!  Sorry Wayne, the things I have seen, heard and the responses I have gotten from pointed questions I have asked Gary just show his lack of truthfulness and respect towards others.  YMMV

The year goes out sadly for the Amiga loyalists, but hopefully with the thought that everyone at least knows the truth about Amiga Inc. now.

 :-(

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You know?  Sometimes it's difficult to seperate what's best from what feels right.  After having slept on this subject for a night, I cannot apologize for what's been said.  I meant it very deeply.  I do however feel the need to apologize for how it was said.  

As usual where emotions are evoked, I have gone too far and made some comments which were off-the-mark.  Initially I had no intentions to purposely insult people, but after sleeping on it, I realized that my emotions were simply caught up in the chase and I had said a few things which -- in retrospect -- I should not have said, specifically comments such as McEwen needing a satin pillow for Christmas.

Some of these guys (Amiga Inc) have really been my friends in the past, I just truly do not currently agree with their path and it's sometimes kind of painful to realize what could have been.  I am bitterly disappointed that AI is hitting the three year mark and have zero to show for it except a motherboard that I don't want and an updated OS with no software support.

In the past, when it mattered and the Amiga community could have been not only salvaged but highly influential, I had even literally begged them to work pro-bono (free) to organize their public relations which they STILL desperately need.  (trust me, I was much more enthusiastic and upbeat back then --- remember when some here hated me because I was a cheerleader?)

I'm by far not the only one and if Amiga would have accepted our offers, one cannot help but believe that both Amiga Inc and the community would have been FAR better off today.  This is why I do not buy the bullshit about how "the economy is to blame".  

When you have 50 highly-qualified people who know their stuff and know this community who're willing to *donate* time and effort to your project, by God YOU TAKE IT.  They didn't.  This is why they find theirselves in a non-winning position today with this community, which is why in respect to that, I have little pity for them

But considering that I did not intend to personally insult anyone, I am going back to edit my comments to remove such insults from this discussion as it has no place here.  Bill has my apologies for getting slightly out of camber in my now-edited remarks.

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@kostas

Everything.  Name one thing that is right?  One single thing that cannot be seen as a negative.

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@eric

I meant in relation to the current "Amiga" direction.  I am one of the first who tries to find the silver lining but I simply can't find it anymore.

Amiga Inc's main goals have zero to do with an Amiga as we know it.  I have no love for Ben Hermans and while I have faith in Eyetech to resell MAI boards, I have no interest in one.

That leaves me (and I'm sure a slight majority of you) with nothing in the future that I'm interested in.  I run PalmOS, hate Windows PDAs.  I don't need a slow, expensive PPC solution, and I need commercial software support.  None of these things are being addressed or even compensated in the decisions that Amiga Inc have made.

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Wayne you’re 36 and I’m now 60!   I have certainly wondered if I will ever see a new Run Any Where Amiga too......?

How painful to see and relive all the frustration over and over again....It clearly must be very very difficult to resurrect the Amiga and the fact that Bill McEwen et al,  are still alive is nothing short of a miracle for all the many reasons stated before.

I use Windows98 and am desperately holding out and not wanting to get XP (.net concerns etc.)  When I consider how Windows has improved over the years (yes I can’t wait till I don’t have to use it anymore too) and how much money and talent Micrsoft has thrown at the Windows OS over time and have it still run the way it does...is it any wonder Amiga OS 4.0 is taking this (relatively short but painful) amount of time to develop?  I always thought the time line was too optimistic.

Seems to me .....as soon as we get a product to use we will be able post about that and turn our attention to the many issues and topics that will come  up both pro and con and turn away from this self denigration etc.

The PPC vs. x86 issues is a very difficult one for me to deal with personally but Amiga inc. is still alive and moving ahead.     Hopefully “soon, very soon” now.

Just my $.02
Bob C.

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@SirLancelotDuLac

I can see your points, and you do have a few valid ones.  The whole issue for me comes down to the simple fact that none of the problems Amiga Inc are facing today would be there if

1) they would have taken the help offered to them
2) by extension, Amiga Inc would have any idea how to handle public relations.

The fact that Amiga Inc is a PR nightmare is absolutely perplexing considering the supposed fact that Bill McEwen comes from a PR background.  I have seen so much potential in this community squandered over the last three years that it makes me positively sick to my stomach.  

Regardless of PPC/x86 (the fact that I do not support PPC does NOT make me a proponent of any particular chip), Amiga *could have* made a comeback if they had handled their business like a business starting THREE YEARS AGO. Now it's simply too late for Amiga to have do anything substantial, either on the desktop or in the pocket.