Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility Partner Advisory Council

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We missed this earlier on the 18th, but here's an "interesting" article about the new partnerships that Microsoft has been making.  Apparently Amiga Inc is now a charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility Partner Advisory Council (MPAC).

Microsoft Interview / Announcement

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"Another step closer to the danger zone".

Damn, I hate it when I'm right.

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I've only made a few predictions recently.  One of them is that Amiga is a LOT closer to Microsoft than Bill McEwen wants to admit and that they have either already been bought out by Microsoft, or will within a year.  So far, looks like I'm right on schedule.

If I'm wrong at the end of a year (November 2003), I'll gladly stand up and admit it.  

Here's the thing though, and there's just no way of getting around it.  Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant.  Amiga Inc no longer has ANYTHING to do with what anyone thinks of as THE AMIGA.  They (as well as Hyperion and Eyetech -- and bplan/others) are simply using us to cash in on "the name".  There will be no resurrection, let alone a revolution.

Before the cynics amongst you start crying foul, yes indeed, I take donations to this Web site based on "the name".  I even ask for them (You would too) staying on top of things with this site takes a great deal of time and effort.  The difference is, Amiga.org actually provides something.

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And seeing as you think its all a no hoper then there is no point in any off us holding out hope so if we all move on right now

Please learn how to use the site so we can differentiate your comments from those you are replying to.

then there is no need for Amiga.Org thus no need for a Donation.

As long as there is an "Amiga", there will be an Amiga.org.  I just personally have zero (actually negative) use for an EyetechOne, but that doesn't mean that others here feel the same.  

Whether or not you feel our presence and at least attempts to provide the community with a central Web point deserves a donation is entirely up to you.  Keep in mind the definition of donation as a voluntary contribution.

Wayne

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L8-X

To whom are you speaking?  I certainly wouldn't consider what I've said here to be FUD.  It's pretty much now a documented fact that

1) Amiga, Inc is in Microsoft's pocket (for better or worse)

2) Amiga, Inc has nothing to do with the AmigaOne outside of licensing the name.

3) The AmigaOne has nothing to do with the Amiga as we've known it (at least yet).

4) AmigaAnywhere (as far as almost anyone can tell) has nothing to do with the Amiga as we know it.  It's now, for all intents and purposes a Microsoft product and simply a game player engine for their Windows PDA and cellphone products.

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L8-X

It's not sad.  It is not FUD.  It's the facts.  They could have won, but they chose to limit the "future of the Amiga" to antiquated PPC hardware, then abandon anything remotely related to the Amiga we knew to the likes of garage-bands (Hyperion) and repackagers (Eyetech).

Right now, Amiga Inc. cannot win, that much is correct.  This mouse trap is one of their own making.  

I just wonder why they would EVER have bothered buying the Amiga trademarks and names if they NEVER had ANY intent to build an Amiga EXCEPT to fleece (which is very, very appropriate considering some of their actions) the remaining community and to use our good reputation (well, it USED TO BE)  to their benefit to open the Microsoft door.

I think their sellout to Microsoft is a good thing, for them, but it isn't Amiga.  Stop trying to twist everything to pretend it is.  The fact that Bill McEwen was able to con his way into 5 million dollars during the peak of the "free Internet money" era does not make him either competent or Godly.

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@Paul,

While I agree with your stance, you really need to take it down a notch with your confrontation level.

Wayne

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As I see it, the only "real" friend that Microsoft has in the Amiga World is Wayne and all the rest of his puppets.

Everything that Wayne says, everybody agrees with because this is his space.

Your predictions are kinda useless at this point and time.

At one time, I was called a McEwen worshiper by you Wayne, and you were close to being right.

A lot of time has went by now, and I'm not a "worshiper" anymore.
I'm just sit back and watch what is going on in all the forums without commenting.

But for once in a long time, I'm gonna speak.

As far as Amiga Inc.  and Microsoft goes, it has been known all along that McEwen and the gang has been trying to get Microsofts buisness with the AmigaDe side of things.

I really do fail to understand your point, except for the fact that you above all wish for Amiga Inc. to burn.
This place needs to be named HateAmigaInc.org

I don't know what in the world You and Amiga Inc. have been through behind the lines, and I really do not care.

This does not prove anything about Microsoft buying out Amiga Inc.
It actually proves that Amiga Inc have accomplished what they said they were going to do from the beginning.

If Amiga Inc succeeds at what they have said from the beginning, then that's a good thing.
If it turns out like the picture that you paint, well then, it's time to move on.

But your Amiga Inc bashing has no end, and I for one
wish that you would tone down the McEwen hatred that burns in your heart.

This is the first time in many years that the Amiga has moved in any direction, and that is a good thing.

The more they succeed, the more you throw a fit.

It appears to me that you are deep into conspiracy theories.

Maybe you need to write a book of some type.

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@Mountain_Myst

As I see it, the only "real" friend that Microsoft has in the Amiga World is Wayne and all the rest of his puppets.

Ummm.  When did I take this to the level of personal insult?  I said Amiga Inc is in bed with Microsoft.  They are.  Besides, if you can't see how "friendly" McEwen is being in this situation, you have much bigger problems than can be addressed by this Web site.  

I have no puppets, nor is anyone invited to follow me along my road of babbling.  I have an opinion.  My opinion is that Amiga Inc has failed to do anything they've promised and that now there is no future of the Amiga platform outside of a slow, overpriced dedicated hardware machine.  AmigaDE/AA/Whatever might be a very cool games engine, but it has nothing to do with the Amiga.

RE: hatred of Bill McEwen personally.  

I have zero hatred for Bill McEwen, "Fleecy" or any other staff member of Amiga Inc.  Hatred requires feeling and I feel little but apathy towards the current Amiga situation.  I feel a great deal of angst for what could have been, but it's too late to change it now for them to get back on the right path.

Amazingly, of those Amiga Inc personnel I honestly know, Gary Peake is the ONLY one who has -- over the years -- gained and held my respect.  He is generally the ONLY one there who will plainly speak the truth and not encompass it in 5 tons of marketspeech.  Your mileage may vary.

In my never-so-humble opinion, the only thing they've ever done which is even remotely respectable is to stay afloat.  For the lean days when Amiga Inc personnel were having to file personal bankruptcy and lose their houses/cars and livelyhood, they have my respect for not giving up.

The question then becomes.... "did they ever have a choice but to continue considering their debt"?  They have something they paid 5 million dollars for.  It's now worthless so they can't sell it, so what else could they have done even if they had a choice?

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Told you so about what? And being right about what?
You haven't told *me* anything I didn't know already months ago.

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I said Amiga Inc is in bed with Microsoft. They are

This is number one.
No, they are not in bed with Microsoft.
They are buisness partners.
There is a difference you know.

Amiga Inc has failed to do anything they've promised

This is number two.
To get Microsofts buisness, along with other major companies was one of thier promises Wayne.

there is no future of the Amiga platform outside of a slow, overpriced dedicated hardware machine

This is number three.

Why?  Because you say so?
Of course this is just your opinion, but there are a lot of people out there who believe otherwise.
I think that only time will tell this.

AmigaDE/AA/Whatever might be a very cool games engine, but it has nothing to do with the Amiga.

And this is number four.

What in the world do you mean by this?
AmigaDE/AA/Whatever will become a very important part of the new Amiga OS if they succeed at what they are doing.
All you have to do is read about Amiga Inc's future plans for Amiga DE, and you will see that it is very certainly a part of Amiga.

That's all I'm saying by the way...
Now its time to sit back and watch the story unfold even more.

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And which h/w would YOU like the new Amiga to have?

Like Amiga Inc promised us originally before denying they ever said it, I want to run AmigaOS/DE/AA/whatever on WHATEVER HARDWARE I HAPPEN TO HAVE AT THE TIME.

Don't give me the OS5 ####.  3 years into building OS4 and it's not done yet.  There is no OS5.  There won't be in my lifetime at this rate and I'm only 36.

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I tend to trust Fleecy and what he has told me untill now have been quite positive (and true).

Really?  P.T. Barnum comes to mind.

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@L8-X

My sincere admiration for your level of patience.  I can't wait for 45 years for anything resembling a usable computer.

I already have Windows and it's more than usable for anything and everything I need to do.  Is it perfect?  No, but it's a damned site better than a machine which hasn't been updated in 7 years (and won't really be updated, just made faster for the next 10).

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The writing has been on the wall for a very long time, but many have just refused to see it, in desperate hopes that Amiga would actually become Amiga again.  All it has become, it seems, is MSAmiga, Inc with a bunch of boneheads at the helm!

Wayne is right for the most part.  The execs have only used the name and the users for further gain and to entice programmers in enough to get their sad little four games to market.  Everyone should have realized when AmigaAnywhere became M$ only there was a problem, heck probably even sooner than that!  Bill and crew have made one bonehead decision after another and everyone there have followed him like sheep going to a slaughter!

The one part I can't really agree with Wayne on is Gary Peake, as I have not heard much substance or truth out of his ramblings anytime!  Sorry Wayne, the things I have seen, heard and the responses I have gotten from pointed questions I have asked Gary just show his lack of truthfulness and respect towards others.  YMMV

The year goes out sadly for the Amiga loyalists, but hopefully with the thought that everyone at least knows the truth about Amiga Inc. now.

 :-(