Raquel Velasco & Bill Buck / Genesi's Clarifications

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It is kind of funny seeing Bill Buck's nonesense being spread as news everytime. Such guys make the Amiga community look like a daily soap opera. Everday new misinformation/FUD or childish behaviours.

It's almost unreal that this guy is actually a CEO of a company, he belongs in a kindergarten instead.  ;-)

Anyway you can read Alan/Eyetech's take on this posting here and here.

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Yes, let's kill the people that fix the articia so we are sure to have no new machines

Don't worry with or without Bill Buck there will be new boards. Whatever Bill says, IMO you shouldn't take him too seriously or as the one preaching the truth, IMO better would to hear other sides of the story as well(/only) (i.e. from Eyetech, MAI, Terra Soft, etc).

I know first hand that this guy shouldn't be taken too seriously. What is written by him in forums (or within emails) is mostly childish bluff, misinformation/FUD about 3rd parties or marketing hype.

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Thruth hurts Mike. When you will figure out that the articia is crippled and that the Amigaone won't work

I am willing to take that risk.  ;-)  AmigaOne betatesters did not find anything seriously wrong with these boards for a very long time. They have been running all kinds of Linux distributions on them without major problems for months now.

Therefor it is easy to understand that the original bug wasn't something you would come across on a daily basis. But regardless this bug is now fixed due to efforts of Eyetech, bPlan and MAI, nothing Bill Buck deserves any credit for.

Eyetech could sell Pegaos boards branded AmigaOne and everyone would be happy but it will never happen with Ben

They have their hands full with their AmigaOne boards and Linux MAI boards already. Many people prefer to have an AmigaOne (which can run AmigaOS4 legally). Everyone should know that one cannot just transfer a specific license to totally different hardware (similarly Mr Buck's AmigaDE claims are nonesense).

Next to the advantage of offering fully AmigaOS licensed hardware, I prefer Eyetech's AmigaOne because it already offers G4 solutions for christmas and offers me an additional 66 Mhz PCI slot.

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By the way, what does "cdfr" stand for? I could only find "Child Development (Bill Buck?) and Family Relations (Bringing the Amiga community closer together?)" on the internet.

I ask, because I want to make sure that I am not wasting my time on some anonymous troll.  ;-)

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It's so sad Mike watching you throw away the last shreds of being a respectable author

Come on now Randy, this is all just hilarious. And by the way, since when have you (of all people!) decided to become a moralizer.  ;-)

[System]

The war is about over and the community needs to pull together.

I wouldn't call your 100% certain claims of Amiga bankruptcy a result of a so called "war". And what exactly ended this "war" in your eyes?

Your just a partisan Sock Puppet who mouths what your Puppet Master wants to be said in public.

If you mean Bill McEwen as being the "Puppet Master", he actually thinks it would be best to ignore people like you or Bill Buck. This to avoid those nasty flamewars on Amiga forums.

I threatened long ago after reading Hyperion's silly nonsense against bPlan/MOS to buy a Pegasos.

Why threaten people? Why not just buy one, why should others care about this?

And by the way, you also stated many times in the past that PPC was the wrong way to go as well as going closed source. Do you understand that MorphOS isn't x86 nor open source?

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@ Jedi

And don't forget that ALL these projects (Pegasos, MorphOS, AmigaOne, AmigaOS4) are ALL developped by TRUE Amigans (for many years) like you (I hope you are).

I personally believe 3rd party Amiga-like efforts should be applauded, that is not a problem for me. The main problem is that their main man/spokesman, Bill Buck is sowing FUD/misinformation among the Amiga community on a continuous basis. That they try to hype (within limits) their own products isn't a real problem either, most companies are doing so. But spreading nonesense like this about 3rd party efforts is truly pathetic.

And in my opinion the AmigaOS4 team includes many excellent developers. Also the Frieden brothers are truly among the best developers the Amiga community has to offer. MAI also seems to think so, else they wouldn't have hired them to do the work another much larger company was supposed to do.

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@ Jedi

Just a question : finally, what will you buy ? a great product ?

Personally as an AmigaOS fan I will buy a good product which runs AmigaOS4. My preference goes towards an AmigaOne-XE board, but if someday there would be a fully AmigaOS4 licensed version of the Pegasos board, I may buy this as well for comparison articles. The chance of actually seeing this happening is IMO very slim, especially considering all recent events.

Personally, at this point of time, I will surely not purchase a dedicated box solely for a MorphOS/ABOX solution, I would greatly prefer Amithlon instead. That is my personal opinion.

For the moment, when I read you, and others, I see only a man who contributes to destroy the Pegasos/MorphOS products with personal (and not very intelligent) attacks directly against some persons,

When I read your comments I see a person who actually belongs on morphos-news.de instead, as you can't possibly expect any of us to accept Bill Buck's crap without stating our criticism.

You are the first to say that there are great people in the Genesi's Teams

Yes there are, but that doesn't mean that I won't criticize their management.

that for many people your repetitives attacks against Bill Buck also insult all the teams and products.

And haven't you read any of the comments produced by many of bPlan/MorphOS team members against Amiga Inc related efforts? Believe me, there are thousands of such crap postings to be found all over the internet.

So, if you have personal problems with Bill Buck, continue your personal attacks directly with him in private

If he keeps his FUD/misinformation about 3rd parties internally, I will keep further criticism privately. But Bill Buck has recently demonstrated himself to be far more childish than that, actually he is the one spreading FUD/misinformation about me personally to all key webmasters/employees and even dealers.

So who is being childish here?

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@ anarchic_teapot

Ah, yes: something quite a few people seem to have forgotten, yet it was only 6 years ago.

Yes it certainly seems as if Bill Buck has learned almost nothing from his VisCorp fiasco days, as CEO at the time. I feel sad for Carl Sassenrath and all other people who had to deal with his nonesense.

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@ Jedi

do you know that the * minimal * betatest of the full OS4 on AOne will take you more than 3 little months?

AmigaOS4 is made up of different components. Many of these components are finished and have been undergoing beta-testing for a very long time now.

It's quite simple, image huge applications like Mozilla or OpenOffice.org available for the x86 Linux platform, does a port to PPC Linux take the same amount of beta-testing time as the orginal x86 version? No? Now you answer the question, why not?

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@ Jedi

Bill has 0% creditibility left for me, both due to what he spreads publicly and due to my personal experiences with this guy.

The fact is that he was the CEO of VisCorp at the time and the company management was a fiasco. Certainly as CEO he has had his say and part within this whole affair, or else it would be like saying Bill McEwen has no part in Amiga Inc management, or Steve Jobs at Apple, etc.

"many" is not "all"

No, but IMO your question was answered correctly. If Ambient would have been tested on classic hardware for a year already, I believe Ambient wouldn't have been as unstable as it is today.

"components" are not the "complete system"

Yes, else AmigaOS4 for the AmigaOne would already have been finished shortly after the kernel was ported. As some components still need to be emulated Petunia integration is likely to be one of the main points of focus.

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@ Jedi

But, again, that are your personal problem and point of view.

Nonesense, that isn't really a problem for me, however maybe it is for you as you cannot imagine anyone criticizing his childish behaviours.

You can believe that your truth, with YOUR reasons, is a reality, but * try * to accept that our truth, with OUR reasons, are also perhaps a reality...

Maybe you have completely lost the topic here. This thread is about Bill Buck making wild claims with regard to 3rd party products. It is not about personal preferences nor about some sane employees amongst the Genesi team.

Can I gather from this that you think Bill Buck's wild claims are correct.   ;-)

Do you know that Pretory is a great success ?

Do you know that Bill Buck is not the CEO of Pretory?  ;-)

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@ Dammy

Well, it was me who confronted you with the fact that the orginal AmigaOS has never been open sourced, in response to your views on only open sourced software having any future. I simply did not agree with your views while looking at the amount of money which is being spent on Linux, while still offering rather slow and bloated solutions.

IMO to develop a good desktop OS a good fulltime (usually means commercially paid) development team is needed  to accomplish this. I do see a future for open source however, but not in terms of providing innovative new technology. (Would you release innovative software as open source, so that rival companies can pick it up for free, or would you like to make money with your efforts?)

Do you suffer from amnesia or do you just have a selective memory?

even I am looking into purchasing a Pegasos.

Good for you! That would mean that you would finally actually do something instead of just trolling. IMO that's a good improvement. I am totally for people who are satisfied with Pegasos/MorphOS solutions, that they buy these products, this will even help Amiga dealers.

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@ zacman

Do you know that Raquel is the main shareholder?

No, I do not *know* that. I have only read Bill Buck's mention of this, but if this is true or not I don't know, as there have been lots of cases where I do know where Bill twisted facts.

But regardless I completely fail to see how this makes him a good CEO. Personally I may have a huge stake in a very successful company as well, but does this make my wife a suitable CEO for a company?

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get for example licenses that no other Amiga company is able to get.

I would already be more content if they would finally release a MorphOS feature list. But of course I am also curious to know what these wonderful licenses could be, but who is your source? Hopefully not Bill Buck?

You'll see in Aachen.

Yes, we'll see.  :-)