MUI Class "Bug"

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I took recent notice that I have a 'buggy' MUI class lib somewhere.

The problem being: whenever the word "Elbox" is spelled into a text gadget, string, etc. via any MUI class, it is 'cutely' respelled as "elb*tts", "hellbox", "elbugs", and a few other choice mis-spellings.

Unfortunately, I've copied over my MUI classes recently with a CD backup so the datestring on the files all read the same...

Does anyone have any idea which MUI class has this 'feature' hacked into it, which version it may be?

The joke was sort of cute, but is rapidly becoming annoying...

Thanks

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After a bit more research, it appears to be affecting non-MUI strings as well...apparently I think this is a virus, no luck on defeating it yet, but if anyone has any info on it I'd be glad to hear about it.

I'll keep everyone posted if I find out anything more, myself.

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I'm not 100% positive, but it looks to be a Poseidon 'bug'!

Typing out Elbox on my attached A3000 kb through the powertower kb adapter doesn't affect anything.

The same word typed on a kb attached to the USB card causes this 'bug' to emerge...

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After booting with no-startup sequence, trying USB keyboard attached to bootkeyboard.class, this 'behavior' didn't exist.

Adding MUI:LIBS assign, running trident prefs,  and binding the keyboard to HID.class, revealed what I suspected - this is a Poseidon 'bug'.

i think, like Lempkee me too, that is the Elbox "joke" about theyrs " modified" drivers.

Yes, I understand the 'joke' it just frightened me that a 'virus' might have attacked my system!

It is a well known behaviour :-)

If you mean this 'bug' is a well known behavior, it wasn't to me.  I subscribe to the Highway/USB mailing-list and frequent both Amiga.org and ANN.lu and have not heard anyone report this as of yet...

Like I said, I understand the 'humor' but I just think this was a little scary due to all the anti-Elbox attitudes held by most.

Honestly, I think it's believable anyone could have 'hacked' out a virus that'd do something like this...and possibly worse that'd remain unnoticed...

I'm relieved that it isn't a 'virus' but I do find it in slight of poor taste after I have spent a good two hours virus checking my harddrive!

mhhh!!! Elbox . . .bad boys!!!

Perhaps...but sometimes Chris Hodges behavior is a bit bizarre in return.

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AFAIK, those "driver protection", was implemented on the Spider driver (as Lempkee has made me to remember).

The only report of this 'driver protection' was from Spider users who e-mailed Elbox privately.

Reports claimed that Elbox was going to refuse it's drivers (for Mediator, FastATA, as well as Spider drivers) to function if used in tandem with an E3B product - apparently in retalliation for Chris Hodge's refusal to sell Poseidon registration keys.

Personally, myself, a Mediator owner, I have not recieved any updated drivers containing this 'lockout' - (which for the record if this was planned I was violently against)

I own a Highway card in addition to my Mediator and I would prefer not to be locked out of usage of the Mediator busboard or my Highway card.

While it is possible that this measure was planned, it wasn't to my knowledge implemented (thank god!) as I haven't recieved any modified drivers.

Personally, it seems like the users of Poseidon and Elbox products (and in some cases, owners of E3B products) are the ones getting shafted so to speak.

I'm rather tired of these childish fueds between Chris Hodges and Elbox and feel terrible that Michael Boehmer is also being dragged into this simply by being associated with Mr. Hodges.

PS- except this annoying episode, Elbox remains one of the best and active Amiga related company IMHO

I wholeheartedly agree...just as I agree that Chris Hodges is doing a fantastic job on bringing USB to classic Amigas, Amithlon systems, and MorphOS through Poseidon.

I can't fathom my Amiga without a Mediator or without Poseidon USB stack.

It's a shame that both of their behaviors sour the fruits of their labor.

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@ Kent:

So it works on the shell without launching any programs? (holding down both mouse buttons)

Sort of...Holding both mouse buttons down and booting without a startup sequence binds the keyboard to the 'bootkeyboard.class'

While bound to the 'bootkeyboard.class' I can type 'Elbox' without the 'bug' respelling it for me.

Afterwards, I added "MUI:Libs" to my Libs: assign, and "MUI:Locale" to Locale, did a "mountenv" and fired up "Trident".

After I bound the "hid.class" to the keyboard, the "Elbox" bug returned.

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Well, I email Chris Hodges last night and just got a response this morning.

Apparently this 'is' a feature of the "hid.class" and can be circumvented by holding down another key while typing "Elbox".

However, before anyone goes 'too hard' on Chris, he did offer me an apology and sent me a modified 'hid.class' without the Elbox re-spelling feature.

@Lempkee:

I agree fullheartedly about Chris.  He's a great guy, and a gifted programmer, but I believe he goes a touch overboard at times.I think he has every reason to feel justified in being upset, but the way he conducts himself sometimes makes him look slightly childish.

It's simply a shame because with his temper and Elbox's stubbornness this situation will probably never go away.  I only hope it doesn't worsen.

Personally, the one I feel the worst for is Michael Boehmer who's been dragged into the middle of this - when this situation is simply an Elbox vs. Hodges fued.

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@ Framiga

oh my God!!! so those "hid.class", is now a "friendware" distribution?

From my perspective, this Elbox vs Hodges fued isn't necessarily hitting the other parties so much as it's hitting the users.

Elbox's alleged threats to 'disable' their drivers if E3B hardware is detected, this hid.class retaliation, the threats, the demands, and everything is hitting the consumers.

I simply want to run a Mediator, a Highway USB card, and Poseidon in my setup.

If Elbox is a bad company with terrible business ethics it doesn't change the fact that my Mediator is one of the best upgrades I have for my A1200T.

If Chris can be a bit overbearing with his frustrations it also doesn't change the fact that Poseidon has become a integral part of my A1200T's software either.

If a consumer wants to boycott one product or the other, fine, that is their choice.  But to be 'dragged' into this is just wrong whether you believe Elbox are the bad guys or that Hodges is the bad guy.

I simply posted about the resolve to this problem so that others suspecting their systems being 'invaded' by a virus wouldn't become as panicked as I had.

If Chris wants to keep this 'feature' in the hid.class and future versions of it, that's his decision and his right to do so.  I only think users should be warned about it as to not become panicked and start frantically searching for a virus.

I only posted the result of Chris sending me a new hid.class to show that Chris does actually care about Poseidon users.