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Re: Apple OSX
« on: July 21, 2003, 06:20:03 PM »
Yeah.. poor darlings never realized they should have bought a real PC instead  :-D
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Re: Apple OSX
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2003, 06:40:16 PM »
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First of all, now I have to take you to task for not understanding international law.


Oh really?  I'm waiting :¬)

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Fair use laws are mostly an american concept, most european countries do not have fair use exemptions from copyright laws. They do have some things, like the concept of 'personal use' that American do not have....but its different from 'fair use'


Neither the USA, nor Europe, nor even USA+EU+Europe constitutes "the world".  Besides, you are quite mistaken.

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99% of all people using MOL use it on their Apple branded hardware. Its only the tiniest of fraction of people who own AmigaOne's to run Linux, as compared to people who own real mac's. MOL since it is chiefly used in a legal way, is a legal product.


Actually, I was looking just today.  It specifically mentions success on Amigas.

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But when you put MOL on non-apple hardware, that is when the EULA is violated.


In many places, no.  The clauses that you claim are violated never constituted part of the agreement, since they never could be (unenforcable or illegal).  It also is still not piracy.

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Plus don't forget, everything you are suggesting is fine for using Mac OS X means that you can do the same thing with Amiga OS 4.


I think you are finally getting it... you did not think OS X and Apple were somehow special did you?

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if you can copy one, you can copy the other..


Indeed, I can legally copy anything I like, so long I own a purchased copy and do not distribute it to those who do not.  Another illegal act would using an OS on two separate machines, simultaneously, if the supplier stated that I may only use it on one.  In this scenario though, I am free to purchase two and install and run from only one physical copy.  It's mostly common sense.. you see, in most nations the law pretty much IS common sense.. this would by the USA is laughed at for its laws so often.
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Re: Apple OSX
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2003, 07:27:30 PM »
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In some countries you can marry your sister, what do I care? In some countries female circumcision is the norm, is it right?


Well, you are the one who claimed you were merely interested in the lgality and not arguing the morality.  Incidentally, No.  (Female circumcision is a nonsense, but I know the practice you actually mean and know, it is not the norm, but does happen in some locations)

As for Amiga Inc fanboys... they have what to do with this?  I think I see your angle now, it's a half arsed attempt at partisanship.  Should have guessed, I suppose.
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Re: Apple OSX
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2003, 07:28:38 PM »
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What the hell is that supposed to mean?


Most people call it humour, Xeron.  Most people can tell, as well :¬)
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Re: Apple OSX
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2003, 07:34:16 PM »
Marktime, I hate to break this to you.. but..

It is not piracy to use the OS on any machine you like, complete with hacks if needed to make it work.  It MAY break the EULA depending on location, though.  However, it definitely does not here, since clauses which try and prevent "fair use" (i.e. I bought one copy, I use one copy, on any machine I can make it work on) are not enforcable.  But better than that, because of your little favourite at the end, the disclaimer, they never even formed part of the agreed to EULA, because they were removed from it, by the licencor, by that disclaimer, if they were unenforcable, illegal or otherwise could not be made legal in the location where you bought the licence.

As for not being bright... not too bright to manage to miss these points, despite them being made to you by several people, in two threads.
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Re: Apple OSX
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2003, 09:43:01 PM »
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Your constant repition does nothing to make your point. You accepted a license that stated you would use the software on apple branded hardware, and then you broke your word.


Nope.  Firstly, my repetition is of refutations to you.  If you don't like the repetition, stop repeating nonsense.  Second, I accepted no such thing, having never owned an Apple and thus never broke any word.  Much less the EULA which would never have bound me that anyway, in the UK.

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You are a liar. A dishonest person.


Nope, and you saying it won't make it come true

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If you think its legal, you are wrong, but beyond the fact that its illegal, it goes to integrity.


As above, no.  You saying it will not make it true.

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Your word is worthless. You don't hold your contracts. there is no moral compass within you, that guides your actions beyond what you believe you can get away with...if you don't get caught, you'll do it.


Yet more nonsense, especially as you have no way of knowing even the barest details about my morality or even my personal life :¬)

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Anyone doing business with you, does so at their own risk.


Anyone doing business with anyone, does so at their own risk.. even to you that must be obvious.  The phrase is "caveat emptor" - "Buyer beware".  Incidentally, a name for people who abide solely by this is "Yankee traders" - telling, no?
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Re: Apple OSX
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2003, 10:08:39 PM »
@GadgetMaster:

Ach!  Bored with him now anyway :¬)  He either really does know nothing, or else he is just a troll.  I suspect both actually, especially as he admits his intention was to try and start a flame war with "AmigaOS fanboys" over whether or not they use OS X.  

So, actually going really ON topic.. does anyone like OS X and use it daily?  I have seen it and briefly used it, was not TOO impressed, but possibly only because the interface was different to what I am used to.  Thoughts?
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