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Kickstart 3.1/Amiga 3000 weirdness
« on: September 24, 2005, 01:28:33 AM »
I've been upgrading the A3000 as many of you might have read.  Now I have a weirdness question that's been affected by 3000.

Ever since I put in Kickstart 3.1, it takes a long (long) time to start to boot.  The screen flashes red (ie, like a bad KS ROM) but after about 2 minutes it will kick on and the drives will spin up.  If I remove the SCSI HD from the chain, it pops right up and gives me a "insert disk" screen.  I haven't a battery installed in my 3000.  Is it possibly scanning for HDs now since I don't have a battery installed?
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Re: Kickstart 3.1/Amiga 3000 weirdness
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2005, 01:18:53 PM »
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Right, and I think *some* A3000's react differently than others when the battery is missing. If you do a warm reset from the keyboard during the delay, will it reboot and come up quickly? If so it could just be that the drive isn't initializing fast enough on power up... but I'd lean towards the NVRAM.



If I do a warm reboot, there's no issues at all which is why I was leaning towards the battery.  I didn't have a ROM tower at all in this model, just standard socketed Kickstarts.  I think I'll be making a trip to Radio Shack today and building the lithium battery mod.

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Re: Kickstart 3.1/Amiga 3000 weirdness
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2005, 02:49:36 PM »
What's the minimum voltage you can use?  Would it be possible to put a few NiMH AA's in a battery holder and attach it to the board?
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Re: Kickstart 3.1/Amiga 3000 weirdness
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2005, 05:36:04 PM »
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patrik wrote:
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Is the scsi-bus terminated correctly and is does your A3000 feed termination-power to it (see the "Specific Troublesome Devices" part on this page)?

The reason I am asking this is that in 3.1 the scsi.device driver is newer/different and might react differently to scsi-bus issues.


/Patrik


This is a good answer here because more or less, this is roughly what the issue was.  I slapped in a Quantum this morning and the problem seems to be fixed.  It now blinks red for about 1/2 sec and boots off the drive.   I'm going to try the "battery holder" idea and slap in a couple of rechargables later this weekend.
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Re: Kickstart 3.1/Amiga 3000 weirdness
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2005, 12:30:50 AM »
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Something like this maybe? :=).


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Yep!  I used an old cordless phone I had lying around for its battery pack and it's in there now :)  Finally, I have a clock that works!
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Re: Kickstart 3.1/Amiga 3000 weirdness
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2005, 07:17:04 PM »
Okay, I had some issues with the new HD (I didn't know if it worked correctly.. it loses data constantly).  I was about to rip out the new KS 3.1 chips and drop back to the original 1.4 ones and softkick 3.1 until a new HD arrives when I noticed something odd - my SCSI controller chip in the 3000 is marked as "Proto" !  Is this normal??  What's the revisions of this chip?
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