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Re: Amithlon Computer
« on: August 09, 2003, 01:34:07 PM »
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Ranchu wrote:
Are the VIA Eden's supported? I'd like to build it into a nice mini ITX case.

No. There are fundamental limitations in the VIA processors that prevent Amithlon working on them.

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What sort of CPU and how much RAM would I need? I've got some bits and pieces here including a GeForce 256 card - would that work OK?

I'd recommend an AthlonXP with 256Mb. The GF256 should work just fine.

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- is CPU speed important and can you tell the difference between say a ~1ghz one or a 2ghz one in normal use?

Oh yes. Amithlon will run well on quite modest processors (I used to run it on an 800MHz Duron an it was fine) but it will happily use every clock cycle you can throw at it.

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- 1gb RAM!!! Can you actually use all that?

I seem to recall Amithlon will fail to boot if you have 1GB of ram due to an address space problem. Anything less than that should be okay.

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- I notice you have a 3com nic - does it work properly in Amithlon i thought only ne2000 ones work?

A 3Com NIC won't work. Amithlon only has native support for 10M/bit cards based on the RTL8029 chip. The OpenPCI package has a driver for the 100M/bit RTL8139D chip, which works with Amithlon.

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- the nForce has a built in GF2 MX have you had any luck getting it to work in Amithlon?

The nForce is a bad choice if you want to run Amithlon as it isn't correctly supported. For example, the NVidia IDE controller will run in PIO0 mode, causing slow downs and sound problems.

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- Does the IDE work in bus master mode or PIO 0 or whatever its called?

Depends on the motherboard's chipset. VIA is the way to go if you want fast disk I/O. Amithlon natively supports DMA on the KT133 and KT266 chipsets, and I've made available a beta kernel that supports the KT333 and KT400.

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- Geforce 256 = original Gefore so it should work, right?

Yep. All GeForce cards are supported, although you'll need an updated kernel for the GF3 or better.

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Re: Amithlon Computer
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2003, 03:28:36 PM »
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Gary,

I've got an Athlon XP 1600+ chip lying around but no mobo. What would be your recommendation for a board to match up with CPU that will run Amithlon properly? I definitely DO NOT want to run in PIO-0 mode!

Any KT333 or KT400 board from a good manufacturer will do (not the KT400A or KT600, tho, as those use a new South Bridge chip that isn't fully supported yet).

I mostly use Asus, Chaintech and Soltek boards here.

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Also what Intel boards/chipsets are good choices in case I decide to go that way? (Had bad experiences with VIA in the past.)

Any P3-class Intel chipset should work fine. I can't really comment on the P4 stuff as I don't have any -- I'm an AMD fan. The most up-to-date Intel system I have is an old 233MHz Pentium II   :-D

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Would I notice the difference between say:

P3 ~1GHz
Athlon 1600+
P4 3.06GHz?

Sort of wanting to build a box that will last into the future...

Of those three I'd only consider the Athlon: the P3 is quite slow and the P4 is way, way too expensive for what it delivers.

For Amithlon I'd recommend an Athlon XP 2500+. These have twice the level-2 cache of slower models and really scream running any kind of emulator.

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Re: Amithlon Computer
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2003, 03:19:46 PM »
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@Bill : I only got one screenmode using my Hercules Prophet II Titanium GeForce2 based card. Don't know what went wrong.

Effy, the most likely problem is that Hercules have changed the PCI ID of the card so that Amithlon's kernel thinks it is something other than a GeForce 2.

Donwload this archive :
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~garycvl/files/ViaPatch_010.LHA

and use the PCISCAN tool contained in it to generate a list of PCI devices in your system. Send me the list by PM (or post it here) and I'll try and work support for the Hercules into my next kernel update.
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Re: Amithlon Computer
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2003, 05:27:29 PM »
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Ranchu wrote:
Has anyone got a link to a list of supported hardware and kernels?

Try my site:

http://web.onetel.net.uk/~garycvl/amithlon

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