A-EON Technology Acquires Amiga.org

[LiveForIt]

then olaf opened his amigacoding site and rescued some of utilitybase content, but as expected very limited public attended, lilely because the most actove devs are gone anyway

You don't get user feedback by hiding in developer forum, yes its nice to have place you can go ask questions and get answers, Amigans.net has tags you can use when posting questions that will format source code correct.

The problem whit utilitybase and amigacoding is that developers go there to ask questions, once they know the answers there is no point going there.

All the developers are in their own forums anyway.

The Amiga wiki pages that Hyperion has spent time setting up is better source for developer information, things are better explained then what you can get from a few posts in a forum, and there is example code, there so you don't need to go looking for it.

[LiveForIt]

So how exactly do you want to encourage people to come here for technical discussion? because as it looks like most people that come here do it because they ever did or do it for some coffe house style chat.

On the other sites like Amigans.net and Amigaworld.net it seams that most of the coffee house style chats has moved to Facebook. I think mostly because that can't stay on topic get in trouble whit moderators sooner or latter.

My impression is that Amiga.org has been less strict on moderation.

Etch of the forums has served its own use, generally little activity on all forums.

I guess part of the reason for that is Hyperion support forum, so now people go there if they have problems, and go to Facebook when they what a chat and post wallpapers.

[LiveForIt]

for user feedback you need a user forum. Or you have a specific product forum

For user feedback you need a user forum.

I believe a way to keep users interested is to include users in the development process, make users come with suggestions and feedback. Yes their are things like bug trackers that are better to keep track of issues and improvements, but I think a forum has its own use.

Or you have a specific product forum

Yes that's kind of what was missing on Amigaworld.net and other forums, if you did have problems whit hardware x you where unable to find solutions to the problems by simply looking in categories.

Even if you did find some a topic with the same issue, it was likely it was pages filled with off topic posts and wrong answers. Anyway I believe wiki pages can be better for that kind of thing, if your just looking for answers.

[LiveForIt]

Or perhaps certain hostile Amiga users from AWN and Amigans suddenly start posting here,

Well if some one says some thing that is incorrect, then some one will disagree with that, some people don't want to sit back, and see incorrect information being spread.

As I see it a service to the once who are interested that they get correct information.

If its hostile to correct people who never used the product, when they say things that are wrong, then any OS4 user is potentially hostile to any lie.

insulting users.

If there are some one insulting users, then they will handled by the moderators, and it should not depend on what camp they belong to.

[LiveForIt]

There are those who are accused of trolling by doing exactly this, although from their point of view they are enlightening potential customers to the shortcomings of the product.

Nothing wrong whit that for example AmigaONE-XE/SE has hardware defects is true.

But to say Pegasus II, Sam series or X1000 is buggy is not true, they are good computers.

But if your trying to sell MorphOS to some one that was initial interested in AmigaOS4, then there is some thing wrong with that.

The solution to the problem does not lie in some written rule, it lies in softening attitudes and reducing sensitivities to criticism.

Criticism in it self is not wrong, it depends on how its used, some criticism can be good to improve things, user feedback often good criticism.

None user criticism that is incorrect and is repeated to spread FUD is not.

What derails the thread: the single cirtical post, the dozens of over-sensitive reactions, or the combination of the two?

That's way people should stay on topic in the first place.