How do I build/customise my OS3.9?

[sir_bacharach]

Hi,
 
I've been using OS3.1 with ClassicWB installed.
 
I've managed to get my hands on WB3.9 and am hoping you guys can help with how to make a decent custom build.
 
I think there's far too much stuff I won't use on Classic WB, so here is what I want....

• OS3.9
• Wireless PCMCIA Card Support (I have the card)
• PCMCIA CF Card adaptor Support (I think it needs FAT 95 but am not sure how to install?)
• Directory OPUS
• I want DOPUS to be able to unzip and unrar etc.. (I'm not sure if the standard copy will do that)
• Perhaps looking for a tool that will write an ADF onto a floppy.
• Finally I want WHDload, but without all that front end stuff you can get for it.

I think that'll be it.
 
ClassicWB has magic menus and Scalos and stuff like that, I'm not really interested in all those bells and whistles.
 
Things I'm not sure about is if DOPUS will be able to unzip things by default or if I'll need to install other things on OS3.9 so that DOPUS will read them?
 
Haven't got a clue about the wireless adaptor and what the best browser would be for surfing etc?
 
Not sure what I need to do to make the OS read PCMCIA CF Cards formatted to FAT95?
 
ClassicWB does most of this stuff (apart from the WIFI bit) by default, but I just want to make my own clean build based on 3.9
 
Can anyone give any advice?

[sir_bacharach]

You are talking about Dopus 4.1x?
 
The good news is many folks have uploaded their tricked out Dopus config files to Aminet. A printout of those in one hand and the Dopus docs in your other hand will give you examples of how to do almost anything you can imagine. It's not a bad tutorial of AmigaDos in general. If you are serious, this is truly NOT difficult!
 
The bad news is that everyone organizes their HDs differently, so it is unlikely that ALL features of any given config file will work without a liitle tweaking on your part. IE: moving programs to the path they chose OR editing the paths in the config file to match the locations you prefer.
 
The other bad news is some of those guys chose some butt ugly color schemes (big grin), but you can customize yours to your heart's content.

Thanks for that,
 
Do you think if I take the DOPUS from my 3.1 Classic WB install and drop it onto the HDD of my 3.9 install it will just work immediately with a few tweaks to the setup file? Will it unzip files and unrar etc?
 
I don't know whether WB has to have unzip programs for DOPUS to try and access etc?

[sir_bacharach]

first thing would be to install the 2 official boing bags and then unofficial BB3 and 4.
 
since you use ClassicWB, you could also use one the declination made for AOS3.9 !

 
Thanks for this.
 
Any idea what extras are in 3 and 4? is it worth installing them or is it just gonna add to the bulk?

[sir_bacharach]

Just use ClassicWB 3.9 which is what ClassicWB 3.1 version have minus Scalos which imho is really nice for the original 3.9 feel but with the extra nice features and awesome customization of DOpus that CWB has.
 
Stick with BB1+BB2 unless you want to use newer versions of modules.

The only problem is that I'm trying to cut down on size as I only have a 4GB CF drive and I'm trying to cram all the games on there as well as the OS.
 
I think if I install Classic WB it'll be too big to fit the games on.

[sir_bacharach]

I'll have to have a look at how big 3.9 is with all the updates and see if I can save some space on the massive amount of games I've got for WHDLoad, I might just get rid of all the CD32 games and all the CDTV games, I can't imagine I'll ever play them, there's no guarantee they'll work with a regular one button joystick either I suppose.

[sir_bacharach]

I love ClassicWB too but wanted to have a go at creating my own 3.9 setup.
 
 
I created a thread here ages ago about setting up 3.9, might still be of some use to you -> 3.9 Setup
 
Some of that advice is now out of date (for example you no longer need IconBeFast, just use the new icon.library).

 
I spent all day trying to mess about with this stuff, I Followed the instructions to the word on Classic WB with no luck whatsoever, I was doing it in WINUAE because of the speed advantages and that I can try it out before I put it onto the CF card.
 
I didn't really want Classic WB, but could I hell get OS3.9 Read CF0:, I Added all the dosdrivers from the old 3.1 build into the 3.9 folders but even when I used shell to mount cf0: I got nothing, I couldn't even figure out how to install FAT95. PC's are so easy these days, everything you need is in a package, you click install and it's there, with an Amiga you have to have a degree to understand the instructions, you have to learn how to edit config files and learn simple commands. It's never easy.
 
With that in mind, I gave up and tried to install ClassicWB on 3.9, the install Icon that is supposed to appear would not, so I just knocked the whole thing on the head and reverted back to 3.1 with Classic WB.
 
Due to transfer times and installation times, I spent all day trying to do it and failed.
 
I'll probably try again some day and most likely fail again.
 
I think I'd need to be spoon fed how to do it to actually understand.
 
The problem is, I don't want all the stuff that people compile into a package, I want CF cards in the PCMCIA to be read, I want WHDLoad to work properly and I want Dopus to work with all the unzipping functions. That's it really, I mean Wifi would be nice, but it's not a necessity. I've just got a Wifi card I bought and never used, so it's a shame it's not getting used.

[sir_bacharach]

Well thanks for all the replies.
 
I decided to have another go, my PCMCIA Card adaptor on the PC is starting to play up now, but so far this is what I've managed.
 
I installed Fat95 from Aminet.net and also cfd along with the compactflash.device file.
 
Was simple enough but the problem I was having as I've had previously was that when the card was inserted the Amiga would freeze for ages. Any activity would be unuseably slow.
 
It worked fine on ClassicWB install that I had previously though, but the strange thing was that ClassicWB doesn't use CF0 file in the DOSDrivers folder to mount the drive, so I was a bit confused at that.
 
I overwritten the Amigas compactflash.device file that came from aminet with the ClassicWB comactflash.device and now it all works perfectly.
 
I've also created a copy of the WB disk with these files so when I boot from it,  I immediately have access to the PCMCIA CF Card. This way I can copy the files from that disk onto the hard disk ready for when I install Workbench again. It means I don't have to open up my Amiga and put the internal CF Card into my PC Card reader.
 
As for Dopus, I think I'm gonna just dump the copy of Dopus from ClassicWB with the config files onto my fresh install of WB then examine the Config file to see what other files I need to copy across to make it work.
 
That will just leave WHDLoad to install.
 
Once I've done that I'll install any other programs as and when I see the need.
 
With regards to the CF Card size, I didn't know you could use anything over a 4GB, but to be honest, I don't really want to spend any more money on CF Cards, instead I've just removed all the CD32 games and CDTV games from the drive and made plenty of room. As far as I've seen, there's no diference in most of them anyway other than BASS which has speech and I have kept.
 
I should also be able to fit all my demos on there now too. So I think I'll be happy with the 4GB CF drive.
 
It's only to play old classic games, and maybe I'll get it online one day so I can download files from Aminet direct.
 
I'm not even sure if I'll bother with OS3.9 either, since I don't really know of any differences that would benefit me. I'll maybe just install some of these icon packs I've seen.
 
Thanks again for all your help.